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	<title>Comments on: Legal complexities of the Catholic abortion stance</title>
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		<title>By: mike smith</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/24/legal-complexities-of-the-catholic-abortion-stance/#comment-25106</link>
		<dc:creator>mike smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, Wikipedia is always correct. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, Wikipedia is always correct. <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dr John James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/24/legal-complexities-of-the-catholic-abortion-stance/#comment-25107</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr John James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;.. this is one self respecting civil libertarian who does not agree with your authoritarian edict&quot;  Talk about crass sectarianism dressed in civil liberties disguise. Frank Brennan expresses an opinion about the rights of doctors in a publication and Barnes describes this expression of opinion as an &quot;edict.&quot; I&#039;m reminded why the republic&#039;s cause was so badly managed and with whom Turnbull associated. &lt;br /&gt;The question begging that underpins this &quot;edict&quot; of Barnes ( just to be consistent! ) is the usual amalgam of distortions, half truths and closed mindedness that characterises the Left liberal assault on the innocent and the helpless. That anyone, male or female, has a right to destroy an unborn child underpins this insistence that doctors must dirty their hands by facilitating these murders,  combined with the equally absurd proposition that this procedure is in any way therapeutic. The infamous killing of a 32 week old unborn baby by De Crepigny and his &#039;team&quot; is a classic example of medical mismanagement from start to finish. Mum was allegedly suicidal, and the baby was supposed to be suffering witha congenital form of dwarfism. To have intervened in such a situation in this manner was appaling medicine. All the evidence suggests that abortion in such a patient would exacerbate her psychosis and, of course, the baby was quite capable of surviving had labour been induced, but there was no way the eugenicists were going to allow this helpless child to live.&lt;br /&gt;Barnes and his Left liberal mates know little about genuine human rights and even less about optimum medical care.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;.. this is one self respecting civil libertarian who does not agree with your authoritarian edict&#8221;  Talk about crass sectarianism dressed in civil liberties disguise. Frank Brennan expresses an opinion about the rights of doctors in a publication and Barnes describes this expression of opinion as an &#8220;edict.&#8221; I&#8217;m reminded why the republic&#8217;s cause was so badly managed and with whom Turnbull associated. <br />The question begging that underpins this &#8220;edict&#8221; of Barnes ( just to be consistent! ) is the usual amalgam of distortions, half truths and closed mindedness that characterises the Left liberal assault on the innocent and the helpless. That anyone, male or female, has a right to destroy an unborn child underpins this insistence that doctors must dirty their hands by facilitating these murders,  combined with the equally absurd proposition that this procedure is in any way therapeutic. The infamous killing of a 32 week old unborn baby by De Crepigny and his &#8216;team&#8221; is a classic example of medical mismanagement from start to finish. Mum was allegedly suicidal, and the baby was supposed to be suffering witha congenital form of dwarfism. To have intervened in such a situation in this manner was appaling medicine. All the evidence suggests that abortion in such a patient would exacerbate her psychosis and, of course, the baby was quite capable of surviving had labour been induced, but there was no way the eugenicists were going to allow this helpless child to live.<br />Barnes and his Left liberal mates know little about genuine human rights and even less about optimum medical care.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/24/legal-complexities-of-the-catholic-abortion-stance/#comment-25108</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about the Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What has been passed in the lower house of Victoria gives the best evidence yet of simply not enough talent  for so many tiers of government and Brumby is a dreadful leader.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many medicos are extremely concerned. What will happen with upper house approval are unquestioned abortions for women entering the final trimester and even later. It is nutty stuff destined for catastrophe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Saving gestational age of less than 20 weeks in one room and ending a gestational life of 24 weeks and later in another. It will be soul destroying for the women and carers involved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And f..k the legal niceties....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>What has been passed in the lower house of Victoria gives the best evidence yet of simply not enough talent  for so many tiers of government and Brumby is a dreadful leader.</p>
<p>Many medicos are extremely concerned. What will happen with upper house approval are unquestioned abortions for women entering the final trimester and even later. It is nutty stuff destined for catastrophe.</p>
<p>Saving gestational age of less than 20 weeks in one room and ending a gestational life of 24 weeks and later in another. It will be soul destroying for the women and carers involved.</p>
<p>And f..k the legal niceties&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steve martin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/24/legal-complexities-of-the-catholic-abortion-stance/#comment-25109</link>
		<dc:creator>steve martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the church wonders why it&#039;s churches are empty and can&#039;t entice men into the priesthood. No matter though their consciences are clear no doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the church wonders why it&#8217;s churches are empty and can&#8217;t entice men into the priesthood. No matter though their consciences are clear no doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/24/legal-complexities-of-the-catholic-abortion-stance/#comment-25110</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro Life catholic doctors do everything in their power to preserve the life of the mother AND the unborn child. You can read more about the catholic position on abortion at www.cuf.org.&lt;br /&gt;Abortion increases the risk that young women will develop depression, anxiety and drug and alcohol abuse. Read the study by Professor  Fergusson, a psychologist in New Zealand. He is a self described&quot; pro choice, atheist and rationalist&quot;. You can find his study in the Journal of Child Psychiatry and Psychology&lt;br /&gt;2006. Therefore, It is possible that providing an abortion in a case or rape or incest may compound the girls trauma.&lt;br /&gt;A Finnish study found that post abortive women were more likely to commit suicide than women who carried their pregnancies to  term. I read this on Wikipedia,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro Life catholic doctors do everything in their power to preserve the life of the mother AND the unborn child. You can read more about the catholic position on abortion at <a href="http://www.cuf.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cuf.org</a>.<br />Abortion increases the risk that young women will develop depression, anxiety and drug and alcohol abuse. Read the study by Professor  Fergusson, a psychologist in New Zealand. He is a self described&#8221; pro choice, atheist and rationalist&#8221;. You can find his study in the Journal of Child Psychiatry and Psychology<br />2006. Therefore, It is possible that providing an abortion in a case or rape or incest may compound the girls trauma.<br />A Finnish study found that post abortive women were more likely to commit suicide than women who carried their pregnancies to  term. I read this on Wikipedia,</p>
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