Comments on: Comments, corrections, clarifications, and c*ckups http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups/ now with extra source Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:52:08 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups/#comment-10273 Dr Harvey M Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-10273 Vietnam<br />The War strategy was spin from serious sickos<br />Clearly it was a brilliant and coherent strategy to loose in1975, why, look what happened to everyone’s benefit, so the US never really lost of course, they are big enough to tolerate all the worlds ignoramuses using the word ‘loose’ because we will never see the ‘victory’. There’s the babble spun strategy (which makes the most sense listening to the words) and the real strategy which was no strategy at all and never can be admitted. Spin substituted for excuses. As I have been explaining for decades The US was actively, hand rubbingly and deeply involved in the murderous Indonesian slaughter of 1.2 million Indonesian so called ‘communists’. The particularly bloodthirsty slaughter for at least 5 years instructed and participated in by the US had reached a frenzy and the killers were so frenzied when lobbing into Bali for a couple of weeks holiday (not marked as containing any ‘communists’ just Buddhists) they slaughtered more than 80,000 in 2 weeks. Other US authorities and allies seriously freaked out at this and it all stopped. The US military – CIA bloodthirsty freaks were shoved over to Vietnam and spun us all into fighting ‘communists’ again. Now we have terrorists. These same authorities in the sixties organized a US Presidents execution (its accepted fact now just in case you haven’t been following the official ‘doc’ release revelations to Universities) so they were gung-ho and capable of anything. We all suffered because they never shot and killed any (not a one) real communists in the USSR or China. The killing machine fed on the easy (not so easy in the end) kill of millions conveniently labelled ‘communists’ (a natural extension of McCarthyism). The Bali slaughter has been so secret with Australia involved in its keeping. The official docs were released last year and the continued silence results just from the shock at the horror and worse, the successful cover-up. A little groaning is seeping out. Vietnam
The War strategy was spin from serious sickos
Clearly it was a brilliant and coherent strategy to loose in1975, why, look what happened to everyone’s benefit, so the US never really lost of course, they are big enough to tolerate all the worlds ignoramuses using the word ‘loose’ because we will never see the ‘victory’. There’s the babble spun strategy (which makes the most sense listening to the words) and the real strategy which was no strategy at all and never can be admitted. Spin substituted for excuses. As I have been explaining for decades The US was actively, hand rubbingly and deeply involved in the murderous Indonesian slaughter of 1.2 million Indonesian so called ‘communists’. The particularly bloodthirsty slaughter for at least 5 years instructed and participated in by the US had reached a frenzy and the killers were so frenzied when lobbing into Bali for a couple of weeks holiday (not marked as containing any ‘communists’ just Buddhists) they slaughtered more than 80,000 in 2 weeks. Other US authorities and allies seriously freaked out at this and it all stopped. The US military – CIA bloodthirsty freaks were shoved over to Vietnam and spun us all into fighting ‘communists’ again. Now we have terrorists. These same authorities in the sixties organized a US Presidents execution (its accepted fact now just in case you haven’t been following the official ‘doc’ release revelations to Universities) so they were gung-ho and capable of anything. We all suffered because they never shot and killed any (not a one) real communists in the USSR or China. The killing machine fed on the easy (not so easy in the end) kill of millions conveniently labelled ‘communists’ (a natural extension of McCarthyism). The Bali slaughter has been so secret with Australia involved in its keeping. The official docs were released last year and the continued silence results just from the shock at the horror and worse, the successful cover-up. A little groaning is seeping out.

]]> By: Michael de Angelos http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/11/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups/#comment-10274 Michael de Angelos Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-10274 Neil James continued defence of war is getting wackier. His continued theory of what might have happened-as opposed ot what did happen,is based on the presumption that we ( and our allies) somehow have the right to tell another country whether they should become Communists or not-as though the USA really is the policeman of the world and has a right to decide who should and shouldn't govern a country.<br /><br />We know that's what the Yanks do but that doesn't make it right. Nor have countries that have become Communist fared so badly. Considering Vietnam did and still is, it defies James' repeated theories-or China still is and booming, or Russia which has come out of an obviously difficult few decades of Communism but surviiving quite nicely now thank you.<br /><br />Of course one can point to human rights issues in all 3 countries but how that quite squares in James mind that therefore we can blow to kingdom come-a million Vietnamese and Cambodians is a mystery I can't unravel.<br /><br /> Neil James continued defence of war is getting wackier. His continued theory of what might have happened-as opposed ot what did happen,is based on the presumption that we ( and our allies) somehow have the right to tell another country whether they should become Communists or not-as though the USA really is the policeman of the world and has a right to decide who should and shouldn’t govern a country.

We know that’s what the Yanks do but that doesn’t make it right. Nor have countries that have become Communist fared so badly. Considering Vietnam did and still is, it defies James’ repeated theories-or China still is and booming, or Russia which has come out of an obviously difficult few decades of Communism but surviiving quite nicely now thank you.

Of course one can point to human rights issues in all 3 countries but how that quite squares in James mind that therefore we can blow to kingdom come-a million Vietnamese and Cambodians is a mystery I can’t unravel.

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