Comments on: Rundle08: The anarchists more organised than the GOP http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:16:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23411 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23411 I've left this comment on a couple of recent articles now, so sorry if my repetition annoys anyone, but: Quick one for you John James - if all human life is sacrosanct, does that make all military operations which go anywhere near civilian settlement (eg all of them) just as evil as abortion? And therefore are political leaders advocating military responses to anything as evil as you perceive the Democrats to be? And if not, why not? Are the unborn more sacrosanct than folks unfortunate to live where US bombs are falling?<br /> I’ve left this comment on a couple of recent articles now, so sorry if my repetition annoys anyone, but: Quick one for you John James - if all human life is sacrosanct, does that make all military operations which go anywhere near civilian settlement (eg all of them) just as evil as abortion? And therefore are political leaders advocating military responses to anything as evil as you perceive the Democrats to be? And if not, why not? Are the unborn more sacrosanct than folks unfortunate to live where US bombs are falling?

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23412 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23412 "all without mentioning, even in passing, her pregnancy!"....which pregnancy would that be Daniel? Her recent one when she knowingly brought to term and delivered a Down's Syndrome child?<br /><br />Doubtless Daniel that would not happen to you. Doubtless you would have urged the mother have the child vacuumed from her uterus to be flushed down the refuse chute.<br /><br />Ted Stevens a senator much loved in his native Alaska and with very long history of public service is indicted but as far as I am aware there has been no trial and he therefor has not been yet found guilty except to the prejudiced....eh Daniel?<br /><br />Palin has been widely lauded for her gubernatorial and mayoral executive leadership. She has in fact more executive leadership experience than all three other candidates on the main parties presidential tickets. <br /><br />So far the left seems strangely unable to mount a reasoned attack on her politics and so as exemplified by Crikey, Sanderson 'The Brilliant in My Own MInd' and Daniel 'The Perverse One'......they smear....and liberally! “all without mentioning, even in passing, her pregnancy!”….which pregnancy would that be Daniel? Her recent one when she knowingly brought to term and delivered a Down’s Syndrome child?

Doubtless Daniel that would not happen to you. Doubtless you would have urged the mother have the child vacuumed from her uterus to be flushed down the refuse chute.

Ted Stevens a senator much loved in his native Alaska and with very long history of public service is indicted but as far as I am aware there has been no trial and he therefor has not been yet found guilty except to the prejudiced….eh Daniel?

Palin has been widely lauded for her gubernatorial and mayoral executive leadership. She has in fact more executive leadership experience than all three other candidates on the main parties presidential tickets.

So far the left seems strangely unable to mount a reasoned attack on her politics and so as exemplified by Crikey, Sanderson ‘The Brilliant in My Own MInd’ and Daniel ‘The Perverse One’……they smear….and liberally!

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23413 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23413 Rundle and Sanderson! Talk about 'Pulp fiction' ! Rundle cant tell the difference beteween anarchists and socialists and neither has the faintest insight into what is unfolding in this Presidential election. What Sanderson thinks is Palin's weakness is actually galvanising the Republican base. That she is being attacked because her 17 year old is pregnant and with snide remarks that her disabled baby is not actually hers is like a red rag to a bull with the pro -life movement.<br />This combined with Obama's inane reply when asked to identify when the Unborn become human ( "above my paygrade", what a tight arse! ) and Nancy Pelosi 's comment that Catholics can be Catholic and support the killing of the unborn, because it doesn't matter whether the victim is human or not, its all about 'choice" and then the choice of Biden, a pro -abortion Catholic for VP. Obama, Pelosi and now the Democrat machine/bloggers have managed to do what John McCain had been having difficulty doing for sometime and that is convince the Evangelicals and Catholics that this is the same old sh*t they saw with Clinton et al. <br />Palin's experience far outstrips Obama's, who has run nothing except the Coffeee club for Harvard lawyers. <br />This is going to be one hell of an election. Several Catholic bishops have commented publicly ( John kerry will remember well what happened last time this occurred) and wait till Joe Biden fronts the inevitable questions about his public policy positions and the teaching of the Church he maintains he respects. I think Palin will 'eat' this guy in debate, but time will tell.<br />But Crikey have got to get some better insight than Rundle and his cheer squad provide. Back to your 'Phantom' comics, Davo! Rundle and Sanderson! Talk about ‘Pulp fiction’ ! Rundle cant tell the difference beteween anarchists and socialists and neither has the faintest insight into what is unfolding in this Presidential election. What Sanderson thinks is Palin’s weakness is actually galvanising the Republican base. That she is being attacked because her 17 year old is pregnant and with snide remarks that her disabled baby is not actually hers is like a red rag to a bull with the pro -life movement.
This combined with Obama’s inane reply when asked to identify when the Unborn become human ( “above my paygrade”, what a tight arse! ) and Nancy Pelosi ‘s comment that Catholics can be Catholic and support the killing of the unborn, because it doesn’t matter whether the victim is human or not, its all about ‘choice” and then the choice of Biden, a pro -abortion Catholic for VP. Obama, Pelosi and now the Democrat machine/bloggers have managed to do what John McCain had been having difficulty doing for sometime and that is convince the Evangelicals and Catholics that this is the same old sh*t they saw with Clinton et al.
Palin’s experience far outstrips Obama’s, who has run nothing except the Coffeee club for Harvard lawyers.
This is going to be one hell of an election. Several Catholic bishops have commented publicly ( John kerry will remember well what happened last time this occurred) and wait till Joe Biden fronts the inevitable questions about his public policy positions and the teaching of the Church he maintains he respects. I think Palin will ‘eat’ this guy in debate, but time will tell.
But Crikey have got to get some better insight than Rundle and his cheer squad provide. Back to your ‘Phantom’ comics, Davo!

]]> By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23414 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23414 Paul, your Dukakis stats are interesting but how relevant are they? This election follows two terms of Dubya, the 88 election followed two terms of Reagan. Whilst a smartarse lefty like myself would regard these two as relatively similar, history will regard them extremely differently and the US electorate will do the same. Yes, all sorts of changes can occur rapidly during elections, and any sort of scandal can produce these, but all things being even, Obama is in front and will stay that way. Dukakis' support was never firm enough to get over the general view at the time that the US was travelling well and the status quo was to be maintained. That does not apply now. Paul, your Dukakis stats are interesting but how relevant are they? This election follows two terms of Dubya, the 88 election followed two terms of Reagan. Whilst a smartarse lefty like myself would regard these two as relatively similar, history will regard them extremely differently and the US electorate will do the same. Yes, all sorts of changes can occur rapidly during elections, and any sort of scandal can produce these, but all things being even, Obama is in front and will stay that way. Dukakis’ support was never firm enough to get over the general view at the time that the US was travelling well and the status quo was to be maintained. That does not apply now.

]]> By: DavidM http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23415 DavidM Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23415 Terrific piece on Palin....although the allusion to Michael was beyond the pale. Ho Ho. Terrific piece on Palin….although the allusion to Michael was beyond the pale. Ho Ho.

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23416 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23416 Paul, I would like to remind you that you believe that Obama has little hope of winning. I would like to see you put forward a coherent argument for that proposition (and not just some vague musings about American racism etc). You argue that an eight point lead eight weeks out from the election means nothing yet the great majority of candidates who have had that kind of lead at this point have gone on to win the Presidency. Most commentators believe that Obama is more likely to win than not yet you say he is in an almost impossible position. Do you have some special evidence to support this assertion?<br />If you are not willing to present the argument and the evidence then have the good grace to admit that it was a silly assertion and withdraw it.<br /> Paul, I would like to remind you that you believe that Obama has little hope of winning. I would like to see you put forward a coherent argument for that proposition (and not just some vague musings about American racism etc). You argue that an eight point lead eight weeks out from the election means nothing yet the great majority of candidates who have had that kind of lead at this point have gone on to win the Presidency. Most commentators believe that Obama is more likely to win than not yet you say he is in an almost impossible position. Do you have some special evidence to support this assertion?
If you are not willing to present the argument and the evidence then have the good grace to admit that it was a silly assertion and withdraw it.

]]> By: Phil http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23417 Phil Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23417 Loved the Fox News commentator on Palin (courtesy of The Daily Show):<br />"Palin actually has a lot of experience in International Relations because she is, you know, up there in Alaska which is right next to Russia." Loved the Fox News commentator on Palin (courtesy of The Daily Show):
“Palin actually has a lot of experience in International Relations because she is, you know, up there in Alaska which is right next to Russia.”

]]> By: Paul http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23418 Paul Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23418 David Sanderson,<br /><br />I won't sink to your depths of making personal insults. <br /><br />I won't bother going into the details of US specific politics, rather I'll just speak in general terms for your benefit.<br /><br />The election is not today.<br /><br />To repeat an all too often quoted line: <br /><br />A week is a long time in politics.<br /><br />Following on from that, eight weeks is an eternity.<br /><br />And further, an eight point differential some eight weeks from an election means jack.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I dread the thought of Palin as VP and potential Potus (McCain I don't mind so much), yet I do recognise that all the GOP needs to do is get people to vote by scaring them with the potential of more liberal appointments to the USSC, and that's just starters.<br /> David Sanderson,

I won’t sink to your depths of making personal insults.

I won’t bother going into the details of US specific politics, rather I’ll just speak in general terms for your benefit.

The election is not today.

To repeat an all too often quoted line:

A week is a long time in politics.

Following on from that, eight weeks is an eternity.

And further, an eight point differential some eight weeks from an election means jack.

Don’t get me wrong, I dread the thought of Palin as VP and potential Potus (McCain I don’t mind so much), yet I do recognise that all the GOP needs to do is get people to vote by scaring them with the potential of more liberal appointments to the USSC, and that’s just starters.

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23419 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23419 The NYT take on the Palin vetting schemozzle:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=login The NYT take on the Palin vetting schemozzle:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=login

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23420 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23420 Good God! The irony of David Sanderson demanding 'good grace' from another could surely only be matched by Richard Dawkins asking Pope Benedict for absolution..... Good God! The irony of David Sanderson demanding ‘good grace’ from another could surely only be matched by Richard Dawkins asking Pope Benedict for absolution…..

]]> By: Michael http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23421 Michael Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23421 vote McCain / Palin '08 : Dumb & Dumber ! vote McCain / Palin ‘08 : Dumb & Dumber !

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23422 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23422 Only to your incoherent mind Daniel Only to your incoherent mind Daniel

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23423 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23423 Yeah, it is always aesthetically pleasing to see a cynical manouevre backfire and then explode leaving a holy mess of moose stew and rubber chicken dripping off the lacquered hairdos of god-blessed, but otherwise gormless, Republicans. Yeah, it is always aesthetically pleasing to see a cynical manouevre backfire and then explode leaving a holy mess of moose stew and rubber chicken dripping off the lacquered hairdos of god-blessed, but otherwise gormless, Republicans.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23424 Daniel Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23424 "Palin's experience far outstrips Obama's, who has run nothing except the Coffeee club for Harvard lawyers." <br /><br />Obama was also a state senator and is now a sitting senator for the state of Illinois. Obama was vetted during an incredibly drawn-out and grueling Primary process with the most cunning and experienced political players the US has to offer, McCain met with Palin once or twice before choosing her as VP, a choice so obviously cynical one has to wonder whether Alan Keyes would now be VP if Obama and Clinton's positions were reversed.<br /><br />Prior to becoming the Governor of Alaska, Palin was mayor of a town with a population of 10,000. As mayor she managed to put this tiny, insignificant town into about $20 million debt. 10 of her 12 years of political experience were as mayor of a tiny insignificant town, which she ran into the ground with a dodgy land deal. And if 'executive experience' counts for so much, the McCain/Palin ticket should be reversed, as Palin clearly has is more experience than J-Mac. <br /><br />Also is there something bad about being President of the Harvard Law Review I don't know about? This sentence really needs more references to arugula and ivory towers if it's to make any sense. <br /><br />Lets see look at some other Palin brilliance: She is under investigation for abuse of power. She supported the corrupt Ted Stevens and even was one of the directors for one of Stevens PAC groups. Her opinion on abortion is radical even for a pro-lifer, she opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Palin believes Creationism/Intelligent Design should be taught alongside evolution in school. These are all perfectly valid reasons to be suspicious or oppose the possible Palin vice-presidency (or presidency if McCain croaks) and all without mentioning, even in passing, her pregnancy!<br /> “Palin’s experience far outstrips Obama’s, who has run nothing except the Coffeee club for Harvard lawyers.”

Obama was also a state senator and is now a sitting senator for the state of Illinois. Obama was vetted during an incredibly drawn-out and grueling Primary process with the most cunning and experienced political players the US has to offer, McCain met with Palin once or twice before choosing her as VP, a choice so obviously cynical one has to wonder whether Alan Keyes would now be VP if Obama and Clinton’s positions were reversed.

Prior to becoming the Governor of Alaska, Palin was mayor of a town with a population of 10,000. As mayor she managed to put this tiny, insignificant town into about $20 million debt. 10 of her 12 years of political experience were as mayor of a tiny insignificant town, which she ran into the ground with a dodgy land deal. And if ‘executive experience’ counts for so much, the McCain/Palin ticket should be reversed, as Palin clearly has is more experience than J-Mac.

Also is there something bad about being President of the Harvard Law Review I don’t know about? This sentence really needs more references to arugula and ivory towers if it’s to make any sense.

Lets see look at some other Palin brilliance: She is under investigation for abuse of power. She supported the corrupt Ted Stevens and even was one of the directors for one of Stevens PAC groups. Her opinion on abortion is radical even for a pro-lifer, she opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Palin believes Creationism/Intelligent Design should be taught alongside evolution in school. These are all perfectly valid reasons to be suspicious or oppose the possible Palin vice-presidency (or presidency if McCain croaks) and all without mentioning, even in passing, her pregnancy!

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23425 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23425 Good job Sanderson and Rundle don't actually work for Obama as doubtless these truly poisonously prejudiced left wing extremists might well be ignominiously dismissed :<br /><br />"Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired."<br /><br />Pity Crikey does not have the same standards as Obama<br /> Good job Sanderson and Rundle don’t actually work for Obama as doubtless these truly poisonously prejudiced left wing extremists might well be ignominiously dismissed :

“Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired.”

Pity Crikey does not have the same standards as Obama

]]> By: Paul http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23426 Paul Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23426 David Sanderson,<br /><br />I repeat myself. 8 points ahead 8 weeks out means jack.<br /><br />Dukakis was double digits ahead after the conventions, and 8 points ahead 5 weeks out. <br /><br />Didn't he do well... David Sanderson,

I repeat myself. 8 points ahead 8 weeks out means jack.

Dukakis was double digits ahead after the conventions, and 8 points ahead 5 weeks out.

Didn’t he do well…

]]> By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23427 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23427 Paul, I think you've failed to include Dubya's trashing of the Republican brand into your conclusions about Obama v McCain. It's gotta be worth several points more than the effect of America's slight but inherent racism on the vote. Paul, I think you’ve failed to include Dubya’s trashing of the Republican brand into your conclusions about Obama v McCain. It’s gotta be worth several points more than the effect of America’s slight but inherent racism on the vote.

]]> By: Paul http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23428 Paul Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23428 As much as it pains me, I have to agree with JamesK. The BO fan club don't seem to appreciate how middle America thinks. The votes that will matter are white with basic education, suburban, christian and ever so slightly racist. <br /><br />Palin's family trouble can be spun and sold as a strength, much as GWB's history of drug abuse and alcoholism was in 2000. If you're a born again Christian, the evangelicals will forgive you for all your wrongs past or present. <br /><br />Although there is that element of good christian housewives who believe that Palin's duties are in the home (where she might be portrayed to have failed miserably), all the GOP needs to do is ensure that Obama is portrayed as an elite progressive (and he so very much is) and the conservative masses will mobilise and vote, not for McCain, but against Obama. <br /><br />Barring a third party conservative spoiler candidate (like Ross Perot, who served Clinton the 92 election on a platter), Obama has little hope. If Nader runs again, he has no hope at all. As much as it pains me, I have to agree with JamesK. The BO fan club don’t seem to appreciate how middle America thinks. The votes that will matter are white with basic education, suburban, christian and ever so slightly racist.

Palin’s family trouble can be spun and sold as a strength, much as GWB’s history of drug abuse and alcoholism was in 2000. If you’re a born again Christian, the evangelicals will forgive you for all your wrongs past or present.

Although there is that element of good christian housewives who believe that Palin’s duties are in the home (where she might be portrayed to have failed miserably), all the GOP needs to do is ensure that Obama is portrayed as an elite progressive (and he so very much is) and the conservative masses will mobilise and vote, not for McCain, but against Obama.

Barring a third party conservative spoiler candidate (like Ross Perot, who served Clinton the 92 election on a platter), Obama has little hope. If Nader runs again, he has no hope at all.

]]> By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23429 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23429 Well done to all contributors who earned their place in the 3/9/08 First Dog. I am SOOO jealous. Well done to all contributors who earned their place in the 3/9/08 First Dog. I am SOOO jealous.

]]> By: Dave Liberts http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23430 Dave Liberts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23430 John James, glad to hear it and I look forward to as many references to the evils of less-than-completely-necessary military actions (eg McCain) from you in the future as you currently make to the evils of abortion (don't need to explain which candidate I'm referring to!). John James, glad to hear it and I look forward to as many references to the evils of less-than-completely-necessary military actions (eg McCain) from you in the future as you currently make to the evils of abortion (don’t need to explain which candidate I’m referring to!).

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23431 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23431 Glad to see you are maintaining the rage JamesK. You must be a worry for your doctor though. Glad to see you are maintaining the rage JamesK. You must be a worry for your doctor though.

]]> By: Theo Zographos http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23432 Theo Zographos Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23432 I must admit the left-wing arrogance in the comments section and indeed simmering throughtout this bellow-the-belt horrid biased attack piece is revolting, however I understand most of it stems from a lifetime of petulance and jealousy. To say that Gov. Palin has undermined the very values she has fought for throughtout her time in office is an insult to any office bearer in elected office. She is the perfect candidate, and that's what makes you squirm. You can't take it that McCain is still hanging in the race, still in with a chance, in a cycle that was meant to kill him, finish him off for good. You can't digest that Gov. Palin, while politically still young, has achieved so much in the name of her country, that she has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined, that she governs a region bordering two nations in Canada and Russia, the only American state that is such, that she is one of the leading voices on energy, that she was right on ANWR and will remain right, that she is the most popular governor in America, that she neutralised the electoral effect of the most anticipated national address this millenium, that she has become a fundraising juggernaut, is extremely photogenic, uses her gubenatorial repsonsibilities as a means of strengthening the national security of the United States by improving Alaska's borders, that she was bombarded atomically by a democratic state legislature with unfounded allegations and came out even stronger, that she is the first female nominee on a Republican ticket, attracts Hillary voters, increases female voters for McCain, is anti-establishment, pro-life, pro-gun, has fought against and weeded out corruption, a true underdog who epitomises so much that can't possibly be within the realms of reality amongst the Grand Old Party that you live to condemn so the only thing you have is to tell the world that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Shame on these gutter-dwellers. B.P. is a separate entity from S.P. I must admit the left-wing arrogance in the comments section and indeed simmering throughtout this bellow-the-belt horrid biased attack piece is revolting, however I understand most of it stems from a lifetime of petulance and jealousy. To say that Gov. Palin has undermined the very values she has fought for throughtout her time in office is an insult to any office bearer in elected office. She is the perfect candidate, and that’s what makes you squirm. You can’t take it that McCain is still hanging in the race, still in with a chance, in a cycle that was meant to kill him, finish him off for good. You can’t digest that Gov. Palin, while politically still young, has achieved so much in the name of her country, that she has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined, that she governs a region bordering two nations in Canada and Russia, the only American state that is such, that she is one of the leading voices on energy, that she was right on ANWR and will remain right, that she is the most popular governor in America, that she neutralised the electoral effect of the most anticipated national address this millenium, that she has become a fundraising juggernaut, is extremely photogenic, uses her gubenatorial repsonsibilities as a means of strengthening the national security of the United States by improving Alaska’s borders, that she was bombarded atomically by a democratic state legislature with unfounded allegations and came out even stronger, that she is the first female nominee on a Republican ticket, attracts Hillary voters, increases female voters for McCain, is anti-establishment, pro-life, pro-gun, has fought against and weeded out corruption, a true underdog who epitomises so much that can’t possibly be within the realms of reality amongst the Grand Old Party that you live to condemn so the only thing you have is to tell the world that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Shame on these gutter-dwellers. B.P. is a separate entity from S.P.

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23433 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23433 Careful, John old boy, your going to have a cerebral incident if you keep on carrying on like that. Careful, John old boy, your going to have a cerebral incident if you keep on carrying on like that.

]]> By: David Sanderson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23434 David Sanderson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23434 For those having trouble believing that Palin is a big problem for McCain I suggest you read this LA Times article. Incidentally, the right ragers above can rest assured that the Times is not some left wing coven:<br /><br />http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinassess2-2008sep02,0,3826591.story For those having trouble believing that Palin is a big problem for McCain I suggest you read this LA Times article. Incidentally, the right ragers above can rest assured that the Times is not some left wing coven:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinassess2-2008sep02,0,3826591.story

]]> By: John James#2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/09/02/rundle08-the-anarchists-more-organised-than-the-gop/#comment-23435 John James#2 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-23435 Come on Dave, get serious. Of course all human life is sacrosanct. I'm not going to launch into a discussion about legitimate self defense and 'just war' theory but a helpless unborn child! Mate, give me a break! The issue with abortion is why one part of the human family are denied the protection of law that you and I expect and hope for in a liberal democracy. Its not rocket science! Come on Dave, get serious. Of course all human life is sacrosanct. I’m not going to launch into a discussion about legitimate self defense and ‘just war’ theory but a helpless unborn child! Mate, give me a break! The issue with abortion is why one part of the human family are denied the protection of law that you and I expect and hope for in a liberal democracy. Its not rocket science!

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