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	<title>Comments on: SMH shows Mike Carlton the door</title>
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		<title>By: Gavin Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24480</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats about it for me! Will be reading the Australian online and buying the weekend Australian on Saturdays.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats about it for me! Will be reading the Australian online and buying the weekend Australian on Saturdays.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br /&gt;How about Mike Carlton writing a weekly column for Crikey? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Mike Carlton writing a weekly column for Crikey?</p>
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		<title>By: Leanne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24482</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Carlton&#039;s column has long been the first thing I&#039;ve read in Saturday&#039;s SMH (Alan Ramsay&#039;s has been the second). Edgy, honest, incisive, it has been a testament to free comment. Sacked for union solidarity? Let slip the waterfront dogs. Like Perry, I&#039;ll save $2.30.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Carlton&#8217;s column has long been the first thing I&#8217;ve read in Saturday&#8217;s SMH (Alan Ramsay&#8217;s has been the second). Edgy, honest, incisive, it has been a testament to free comment. Sacked for union solidarity? Let slip the waterfront dogs. Like Perry, I&#8217;ll save $2.30.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24483</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairfax is pretty much the tip of the melting media and communications iceberg. Radio and television are similarly on the downhill slide with dollar-driven managements all bent on discouraging us from listening, watching and reading. Regional Australia has lost local and even relevant content with shopping cart networks bulk-buying licences to bounce city-centric content off their transmitters. Who in Tweed Heads cares about a Sydney suburban bank-holdup while their searching the local river for the body of a young man and his baby son? Check out the industry ads asking for journos to work in Sydney and Melbourne with the requisite they have detailed knowledge of Brisbane and Adelaide! That’s one network’s contribution to keeping them in the black and us in the dark. And don&#039;t expect vision from the scene of a mid-north coast fatal shark attack - the local television studios have only one journo and one cameraman and both are more than 50-kays away. Oh... the reason we bin the local newspaper? For years we read Rural Press’ advertorials that diced reality reporting for fluffy spin on topics such as the local nursing home. It closed down within months of the fairyfloss article- because of standards breaches. The Australian media has nothing to do with information, facts, debate or even industry training these days which is why Kevin Rudd should add a media industry revolution to complement his demand for better education outcomes.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairfax is pretty much the tip of the melting media and communications iceberg. Radio and television are similarly on the downhill slide with dollar-driven managements all bent on discouraging us from listening, watching and reading. Regional Australia has lost local and even relevant content with shopping cart networks bulk-buying licences to bounce city-centric content off their transmitters. Who in Tweed Heads cares about a Sydney suburban bank-holdup while their searching the local river for the body of a young man and his baby son? Check out the industry ads asking for journos to work in Sydney and Melbourne with the requisite they have detailed knowledge of Brisbane and Adelaide! That’s one network’s contribution to keeping them in the black and us in the dark. And don&#8217;t expect vision from the scene of a mid-north coast fatal shark attack - the local television studios have only one journo and one cameraman and both are more than 50-kays away. Oh&#8230; the reason we bin the local newspaper? For years we read Rural Press’ advertorials that diced reality reporting for fluffy spin on topics such as the local nursing home. It closed down within months of the fairyfloss article- because of standards breaches. The Australian media has nothing to do with information, facts, debate or even industry training these days which is why Kevin Rudd should add a media industry revolution to complement his demand for better education outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24484</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens to The Age when the journalists go on strike? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today&#039;s (Monday&#039;s) Age appers to be 30-40% advertisements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this where the Age and SMH are heading?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens to The Age when the journalists go on strike? </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s (Monday&#8217;s) Age appers to be 30-40% advertisements.</p>
<p>Is this where the Age and SMH are heading?</p>
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		<title>By: sue johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24485</link>
		<dc:creator>sue johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there goes Saturday mornings!  Loved to start the weekend  with a laugh and Mike Carlton always provided that. Irreverent commentary at its best!   A column that will be sadly missed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there goes Saturday mornings!  Loved to start the weekend  with a laugh and Mike Carlton always provided that. Irreverent commentary at its best!   A column that will be sadly missed!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24486</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to lose Mike Carlton but what gooses these Fairfax bosses have become. Outsourcing their legals as a cost cutting exercise must be the biggest joke so far. And especially to Freehills. I&#039;ve just run a case against Fairfax (I settled) but the bill for Fairfax from Freehills must have been frightening-expecially for a small matter like mine. They are spending shareholder&#039;s money afterall and feel no restraints-even my lawyer said these guys are out of control. If I was a Fairfax shareholder I&#039;d be very very afraid-everything might look rosy now with terrific profits but this endless dumbing down will have a roller coaster effect and send the circulation downhill fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to lose Mike Carlton but what gooses these Fairfax bosses have become. Outsourcing their legals as a cost cutting exercise must be the biggest joke so far. And especially to Freehills. I&#8217;ve just run a case against Fairfax (I settled) but the bill for Fairfax from Freehills must have been frightening-expecially for a small matter like mine. They are spending shareholder&#8217;s money afterall and feel no restraints-even my lawyer said these guys are out of control. If I was a Fairfax shareholder I&#8217;d be very very afraid-everything might look rosy now with terrific profits but this endless dumbing down will have a roller coaster effect and send the circulation downhill fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24487</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is slightly more catastrophic than Carlton being shown the door. Fairfax is the first visible, alarming sign that Australia&#039;s electronic and print media has hit the skids. Radio, television and newspapers each and jointly have lost their intended purpose of communicating relevant news and entertainment to the masses. The pursuit of profit has shaved creative, credible and researched material in regional and city centres to the bone. Radio and TV licences all farmed out to media &#039;networks&#039; now commandeering the public airwaves, they relay the bare essentials from Sydney and Melbourne. Which is why at Ballina your local radio station reports a &#039;News Now&#039; pile-up on Sydney&#039;s M-1 instead of the multi -B-double catastrophe you&#039;re actually witnessing!!! From Victoria to Qld generic low-grade immaterial programs bounce off transmitters purchased by these shopping trolley mentals who desperately hope &#039;one size fits all&#039;. Is it any wonder Australia is tuning out, turning off and not reading the thin, implausible and amateur media packages it&#039;s being served. Here&#039;s another mountain for Rudd to negotiate.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is slightly more catastrophic than Carlton being shown the door. Fairfax is the first visible, alarming sign that Australia&#8217;s electronic and print media has hit the skids. Radio, television and newspapers each and jointly have lost their intended purpose of communicating relevant news and entertainment to the masses. The pursuit of profit has shaved creative, credible and researched material in regional and city centres to the bone. Radio and TV licences all farmed out to media &#8216;networks&#8217; now commandeering the public airwaves, they relay the bare essentials from Sydney and Melbourne. Which is why at Ballina your local radio station reports a &#8216;News Now&#8217; pile-up on Sydney&#8217;s M-1 instead of the multi -B-double catastrophe you&#8217;re actually witnessing!!! From Victoria to Qld generic low-grade immaterial programs bounce off transmitters purchased by these shopping trolley mentals who desperately hope &#8216;one size fits all&#8217;. Is it any wonder Australia is tuning out, turning off and not reading the thin, implausible and amateur media packages it&#8217;s being served. Here&#8217;s another mountain for Rudd to negotiate.</p>
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		<title>By: rob </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24488</link>
		<dc:creator>rob </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A successful career in London commercial radio&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve got to laugh at this bit. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carlton was an absolute disaster on London radio and attracted very poor ratings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some things never change. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>A successful career in London commercial radio&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to laugh at this bit. </p>
<p>Carlton was an absolute disaster on London radio and attracted very poor ratings. </p>
<p>Some things never change. </p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24489</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And have you seen how big the frigging photos are getting. It looks more like Who Weekly than a newspaper these days. I give up on them now. I can get my crosswords and Sudoku from other places.... Like Who Weekly. I actually know someone who work quite closely with Kirk. Said he&#039;s not a bad bloke at all. But Jesus - this is just stupid. Surely they have some idea what brand equity is, and how it&#039;s now dissolving before their eyes???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And have you seen how big the frigging photos are getting. It looks more like Who Weekly than a newspaper these days. I give up on them now. I can get my crosswords and Sudoku from other places&#8230;. Like Who Weekly. I actually know someone who work quite closely with Kirk. Said he&#8217;s not a bad bloke at all. But Jesus - this is just stupid. Surely they have some idea what brand equity is, and how it&#8217;s now dissolving before their eyes???</p>
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		<title>By: brian crooks</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24490</link>
		<dc:creator>brian crooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re alex mitchell on mike carlton, while defending barry o`farrell, alex mitchell conveniently forgets to mention that  O`Farrell and his coatition mates intend to sell our energy suppliers as soon as they get the chance, they are playing crass politics, and got caught out by the governments quick thinking, the 20%of swinging voters, you know the only ones vote that really counts, see thru blatant politicking, and can spot a phony a mile away, just look at what happened to howard., the state libs are not a sure thing for 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re alex mitchell on mike carlton, while defending barry o`farrell, alex mitchell conveniently forgets to mention that  O`Farrell and his coatition mates intend to sell our energy suppliers as soon as they get the chance, they are playing crass politics, and got caught out by the governments quick thinking, the 20%of swinging voters, you know the only ones vote that really counts, see thru blatant politicking, and can spot a phony a mile away, just look at what happened to howard., the state libs are not a sure thing for 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gretton</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24491</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Gretton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Carlton was one of the main reasons I bought the Saturday Herald. They&#039;ve just saved me $2.30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Carlton was one of the main reasons I bought the Saturday Herald. They&#8217;ve just saved me $2.30.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24492</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Alex&#039;s general thrust - heading back from the CBD today I was looking at it and thought &#039;this is not Sydney&#039;s newspaper&#039;. True - it&#039;s just my reaction and really just over the layout today, but I reckon I&#039;ve got enough political intuition to say quite a bit of rusted on readership got unrusted today. The headline doesn&#039;t even match up with  their own coverage recently. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. today - the $3B reduced selloff agenda arguably even more profitable to business avoiding the liabilities future and present of the generators, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. yesterday - noting &quot;Private sector already building power stations with 1500MW of generating capacity&quot; in a graphic next to article by Marian Wilkinson Environment Editor readers may recall on their screens recently on 4 Corners visiting the Arctic north.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Henny Penny Iemma is busy telling us all the lights will go off, but everyone knows a 10-20% conservation measure like water savings can be achieved easy over the next 6 years to 2014. He just isn&#039;t credible on this issue. What a pity.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Alex&#8217;s general thrust - heading back from the CBD today I was looking at it and thought &#8216;this is not Sydney&#8217;s newspaper&#8217;. True - it&#8217;s just my reaction and really just over the layout today, but I reckon I&#8217;ve got enough political intuition to say quite a bit of rusted on readership got unrusted today. The headline doesn&#8217;t even match up with  their own coverage recently. </p>
<p>1. today - the $3B reduced selloff agenda arguably even more profitable to business avoiding the liabilities future and present of the generators, </p>
<p>2. yesterday - noting &#8220;Private sector already building power stations with 1500MW of generating capacity&#8221; in a graphic next to article by Marian Wilkinson Environment Editor readers may recall on their screens recently on 4 Corners visiting the Arctic north.</p>
<p>Henny Penny Iemma is busy telling us all the lights will go off, but everyone knows a 10-20% conservation measure like water savings can be achieved easy over the next 6 years to 2014. He just isn&#8217;t credible on this issue. What a pity.</p>
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		<title>By: davo</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/29/smh-shows-mike-carlton-the-door/#comment-24493</link>
		<dc:creator>davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any paper which gets rid of a competent (if occasionally tedious) journo like Carlton, and keeps Miranda Devine, (whose sense of writing, journalistic ethics, consistency and intelligence is, shall we say, elastic) deserves what it gets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not opposed to a variety of opinion - I don&#039;t think Henderson or Sheehan shoudl be sacked - they continually annoy and aggravate me, but at least they can construct an argument, and write well enough to keep me interested.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vale Fairfax</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any paper which gets rid of a competent (if occasionally tedious) journo like Carlton, and keeps Miranda Devine, (whose sense of writing, journalistic ethics, consistency and intelligence is, shall we say, elastic) deserves what it gets.</p>
<p>I am not opposed to a variety of opinion - I don&#8217;t think Henderson or Sheehan shoudl be sacked - they continually annoy and aggravate me, but at least they can construct an argument, and write well enough to keep me interested.</p>
<p>Vale Fairfax</p>
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