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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/26/a-x-of-new-senators/#comment-20620</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26! What have we been doing with ourselves? I blame binge drinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26! What have we been doing with ourselves? I blame binge drinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/26/a-x-of-new-senators/#comment-20621</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of them are not so young are they.   As for the cheap shot at Sarah Hanson-Young - her husband endowed here with the Young bit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have known Sarah since 2002 when she was first preparing to go to Woomera to protest against that hell-hole, she went year after year and we arranged anti-detention rallies together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She worked for Amnesty on the refugee team after getting her law degree and she has made a bloody difference to a great number of our fellow human beings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t always agree with or particularly like Sarah, but she has made more of a contribution than millions of people twice her age and that should be applauded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Xenophon is an idiot who has jumped into bed with the polluters and rich folk at the lower lakes to protect their boating industries while other people try to grow vegetables up stream to feed people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s interesting that after all the whining about the lower lakes we only learnt today that they have received 170 mms. of rain in the last few weeks - Broken Hill who are supposed to be stealing &quot;our&quot; water have had almost none but we don&#039;t hear about that in SA either as Xenophon jumps into bed with the Chapmans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A note on Jock Veenstra - I was around when he built his first steamer in the 1960&#039;s, the guy has made fortunes from this venture and that is all he is worried about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then we have the unknown story of Robert Champion de Crespigny getting planning permission to build a 140 metre long 9 metre high damn at the top of the Hindmarsh River in 2006.    I only know because I am friends with the lawyer who argued against the dam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I asked the council if it had been built I was met with stony silence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On another note - I received and advance copy of Human Rights Overboard due for release on 1 September.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Might I suggest everyone read it and weep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of them are not so young are they.   As for the cheap shot at Sarah Hanson-Young - her husband endowed here with the Young bit.</p>
<p>I have known Sarah since 2002 when she was first preparing to go to Woomera to protest against that hell-hole, she went year after year and we arranged anti-detention rallies together.</p>
<p>She worked for Amnesty on the refugee team after getting her law degree and she has made a bloody difference to a great number of our fellow human beings.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always agree with or particularly like Sarah, but she has made more of a contribution than millions of people twice her age and that should be applauded.</p>
<p>Xenophon is an idiot who has jumped into bed with the polluters and rich folk at the lower lakes to protect their boating industries while other people try to grow vegetables up stream to feed people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that after all the whining about the lower lakes we only learnt today that they have received 170 mms. of rain in the last few weeks - Broken Hill who are supposed to be stealing &#8220;our&#8221; water have had almost none but we don&#8217;t hear about that in SA either as Xenophon jumps into bed with the Chapmans.</p>
<p>A note on Jock Veenstra - I was around when he built his first steamer in the 1960&#8217;s, the guy has made fortunes from this venture and that is all he is worried about.</p>
<p>Then we have the unknown story of Robert Champion de Crespigny getting planning permission to build a 140 metre long 9 metre high damn at the top of the Hindmarsh River in 2006.    I only know because I am friends with the lawyer who argued against the dam.</p>
<p>When I asked the council if it had been built I was met with stony silence.</p>
<p>On another note - I received and advance copy of Human Rights Overboard due for release on 1 September.</p>
<p>Might I suggest everyone read it and weep.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in SA</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/08/26/a-x-of-new-senators/#comment-20622</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I assume you are from Qld, NSW or VIC and hence you probably do not care enough about this issue to make an effort to get any real information about what is going on in South Australia: (if you want to take some time try http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/tag/?topic=rivers )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Xenophon is an idiot who has jumped into bed with the polluters and rich folk at the lower lakes to protect their boating industries while other people try to grow vegetables up stream to feed people.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And fair enough why should you care about people outside of your state... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well then that is the whole problem with the Murray river...  People upstram with there heads in ther A$$...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; It may suprise you to know that there are plenty of farms struggeling to make a living in the lower lakes (ie trying to grow things for people to eat... )  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also grow fruit in the riverland for now.. but with farmers regularly receiving a tiny portion of there water allocation it is a real possibility that the fruit oarchards will die (they don&#039;t grow back in a season ether) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poluters and &quot;Boating Industry&quot; is tiny compared with this.... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And not to mention the Courong... one of the most amazing environments going to the $hit....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps while defending your Sarah against &quot;cheap shots&quot; you should re read your post and perhaps reassess who the &quot;idiot&quot; is...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike&lt;br /&gt;Adelaide SA &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS I did not vote for Nick X I voted green in the senate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn, </p>
<p>I assume you are from Qld, NSW or VIC and hence you probably do not care enough about this issue to make an effort to get any real information about what is going on in South Australia: (if you want to take some time try <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/tag/?topic=rivers" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/tag/?topic=rivers</a> )</p>
<p><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span>Xenophon is an idiot who has jumped into bed with the polluters and rich folk at the lower lakes to protect their boating industries while other people try to grow vegetables up stream to feed people.&#8221;</p>
<p>And fair enough why should you care about people outside of your state&#8230; </p>
<p>Well then that is the whole problem with the Murray river&#8230;  People upstram with there heads in ther A$$&#8230;</p>
<p> It may suprise you to know that there are plenty of farms struggeling to make a living in the lower lakes (ie trying to grow things for people to eat&#8230; )  </p>
<p>We also grow fruit in the riverland for now.. but with farmers regularly receiving a tiny portion of there water allocation it is a real possibility that the fruit oarchards will die (they don&#8217;t grow back in a season ether) </p>
<p>The poluters and &#8220;Boating Industry&#8221; is tiny compared with this&#8230;. </p>
<p>And not to mention the Courong&#8230; one of the most amazing environments going to the $hit&#8230;.</p>
<p>Perhaps while defending your Sarah against &#8220;cheap shots&#8221; you should re read your post and perhaps reassess who the &#8220;idiot&#8221; is&#8230;</p>
<p>Mike<br />Adelaide SA </p>
<p>PS I did not vote for Nick X I voted green in the senate&#8230;</p>
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