Comments on: Coalition scores own-goals with weak climate policy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/ now with extra source Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:49:16 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Nick T http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7085 Nick T Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7085 C'mon JamesK,<br /><br />In that article, if history repeated Obama equalled disaster and the Democrats lost the election.<br /><br />In this article, Obama and the Democrats winning the election equals disaster.<br /><br />Two scenarios, different disasters for different people.<br /> C’mon JamesK,

In that article, if history repeated Obama equalled disaster and the Democrats lost the election.

In this article, Obama and the Democrats winning the election equals disaster.

Two scenarios, different disasters for different people.

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7086 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7086 So Dennis you're not one of the "imbociles" I take it.... So Dennis you’re not one of the “imbociles” I take it….

]]> By: MichaelT http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7087 MichaelT Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7087 Global temperatures peaked in the last decades of the 20th century just as solar activity reached its highest levels in 8,000 years. Solar activity is projected to decline towards the middle of this century. If global temperatures follow it down (as they always have) this debate will come to seem like an historical curiosity. Global temperatures peaked in the last decades of the 20th century just as solar activity reached its highest levels in 8,000 years. Solar activity is projected to decline towards the middle of this century. If global temperatures follow it down (as they always have) this debate will come to seem like an historical curiosity.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7088 Venise Alstergren Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7088 I've been getting the strangest feeling that something is impeding Malcolm Turnbull's progress from making a direct hit on Nelson. The man's ambition is boundless, yet I sense a hesitation. What could it be?<br />As for Peter Peter Pumpkin eater-who had a wife but couldn't keep her-the Liberal's very own poisonous Peter, had a Party and couldn't keep it. Was there no one in big business who shared John Howard's opinion of Costello as being the world's greatest treasurer? Is PC unemployable? If so then he is scarcely doing the coalition a favour by hanging around like the proverbial bad smell.<br /><br />JamesK: Do you have an opinion on everything? I'd hate to be your long-suffering partner. Or do you save all your bile for the pages of Crikey? I’ve been getting the strangest feeling that something is impeding Malcolm Turnbull’s progress from making a direct hit on Nelson. The man’s ambition is boundless, yet I sense a hesitation. What could it be?
As for Peter Peter Pumpkin eater-who had a wife but couldn’t keep her-the Liberal’s very own poisonous Peter, had a Party and couldn’t keep it. Was there no one in big business who shared John Howard’s opinion of Costello as being the world’s greatest treasurer? Is PC unemployable? If so then he is scarcely doing the coalition a favour by hanging around like the proverbial bad smell.

JamesK: Do you have an opinion on everything? I’d hate to be your long-suffering partner. Or do you save all your bile for the pages of Crikey?

]]> By: Venise Alstergren#2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7089 Venise Alstergren#2 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7089 JamesK: you are all for urging other people to 'play the ball, not the man', yet you are the first person to complain when someone makes a typo.<br /><br />Bernard: I kinda worried about your Obama comment as well. Certainly he is untried, and personally I found his writing to be verging on demagoguery, but failing the emergence of an outsider (don't the Americans have some sort of weird 'favourite son' sort of arrangement ?) Surely you couldn't suggest another Republican in the form of, "Ah McCain, you've done it again". You cannot be serious. JamesK: you are all for urging other people to ‘play the ball, not the man’, yet you are the first person to complain when someone makes a typo.

Bernard: I kinda worried about your Obama comment as well. Certainly he is untried, and personally I found his writing to be verging on demagoguery, but failing the emergence of an outsider (don’t the Americans have some sort of weird ‘favourite son’ sort of arrangement ?) Surely you couldn’t suggest another Republican in the form of, “Ah McCain, you’ve done it again”. You cannot be serious.

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7090 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7090 So Dennis you are in accord with Andrew Bolt So Dennis you are in accord with Andrew Bolt

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7091 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7091 Venise, I keep our repartee secret.....<br /><br />Benard Keane wrote a detailed critique of Obama about the time he won the nomination. I did not agree but did find it interesting. He does think Obama would be a poor choice as President of USA.<br /><br />Do a search on this website to find it if ur interested Venise, I keep our repartee secret…..

Benard Keane wrote a detailed critique of Obama about the time he won the nomination. I did not agree but did find it interesting. He does think Obama would be a poor choice as President of USA.

Do a search on this website to find it if ur interested

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7092 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7092 Actually even more 'anti' than I remembered....<br /><br />http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20080604-US08-Obama-equals-disaster.html Actually even more ‘anti’ than I remembered….

http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20080604-US08-Obama-equals-disaster.html

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7093 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7093 The position is a mess on both sides. The Shergold recommendations adopted by The Coalition before the election were sensible. 2012 was sensible. 2010 was and is not. The science is probable rather than certain and the obligations are international but Rudd, when he had the opportunity to make this work played petty party politics and now The Coaltion obviously believes it can win the next election because of this 'issue'. It could backfire badly on one or other side.<br /> The position is a mess on both sides. The Shergold recommendations adopted by The Coalition before the election were sensible. 2012 was sensible. 2010 was and is not. The science is probable rather than certain and the obligations are international but Rudd, when he had the opportunity to make this work played petty party politics and now The Coaltion obviously believes it can win the next election because of this ‘issue’. It could backfire badly on one or other side.

]]> By: Evan http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7094 Evan Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7094 Bernard, what does this sentence mean:<br />"What if President Obama (should such a disaster come to pass) "<br /><br />Are you suggesting Obama would be a disaster? For what reason?<br /><br />EB Bernard, what does this sentence mean:
“What if President Obama (should such a disaster come to pass) “

Are you suggesting Obama would be a disaster? For what reason?

EB

]]> By: Dennis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7095 Dennis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7095 So playing the ole ignorant game eh James? Doesn't cut dingbat, you are dealing with a mature audience here, not the imbociles who get their daily dose of propaganda from the Herald Sun. I wouldn't support Bolt unless he was doing the paying, not something he is familiar with, usually he who has the hand out. Now get on with it. So playing the ole ignorant game eh James? Doesn’t cut dingbat, you are dealing with a mature audience here, not the imbociles who get their daily dose of propaganda from the Herald Sun. I wouldn’t support Bolt unless he was doing the paying, not something he is familiar with, usually he who has the hand out. Now get on with it.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7096 Dennis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7096 JamesK, did you consult Bolt before offering your piece? (perhaps peace would be a better word?) While it may be a mess on both sides, the bloody great mess is about to occur in the Coalition ranks. Sooner ,rather than later, Nelson will receive the knife his back has been presenting as a target. I doubt very much Turnbull will tolerate much more egg on his face. He is not in this to be kicked around and made to look a dope. JamesK, did you consult Bolt before offering your piece? (perhaps peace would be a better word?) While it may be a mess on both sides, the bloody great mess is about to occur in the Coalition ranks. Sooner ,rather than later, Nelson will receive the knife his back has been presenting as a target. I doubt very much Turnbull will tolerate much more egg on his face. He is not in this to be kicked around and made to look a dope.

]]> By: Nick T http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7097 Nick T Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7097 Evan,<br /><br />"Bernard, what does this sentence mean:<br />"What if President Obama (should such a disaster come to pass) "<br /><br />Disaster for Brendan Nelson.<br /><br /> Evan,

“Bernard, what does this sentence mean:
“What if President Obama (should such a disaster come to pass) “

Disaster for Brendan Nelson.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren#2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7098 Venise Alstergren#2 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7098 JamesK: I apologize for missing Bernard's critique re: Senator Obama. (Bernard, I grovel.) James, I thought I'd made it clear in my first comment, that I was very dubious about the man. Ditto what I perceive to be his demagoguery. Thats why I asked about the Yanks having some sort of 'favourite son' thingo.. James, I was asking, not stating. Dear James, do you actually read my comments before sailing into me?<br />James, I'm not anti everything, no, not at all, at all. I'm very pro-you, and our secret repartee.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Venise JamesK: I apologize for missing Bernard’s critique re: Senator Obama. (Bernard, I grovel.) James, I thought I’d made it clear in my first comment, that I was very dubious about the man. Ditto what I perceive to be his demagoguery. Thats why I asked about the Yanks having some sort of ‘favourite son’ thingo.. James, I was asking, not stating. Dear James, do you actually read my comments before sailing into me?
James, I’m not anti everything, no, not at all, at all. I’m very pro-you, and our secret repartee.

Cheers

Venise

]]> By: Jo Dyer http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/28/coalition-scores-own-goals-with-weak-climate-policy/#comment-7099 Jo Dyer Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7099 Has Crikey's political correspondent reduced his commentary on the US election to parenthetic flip asides? Safer to toss off an assertion than argue a point, Bernard? Has Crikey’s political correspondent reduced his commentary on the US election to parenthetic flip asides? Safer to toss off an assertion than argue a point, Bernard?

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