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	<title>Comments on: Lowbottom High Diaries: How to spot a dud teacher</title>
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		<title>By: dermot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/25/lowbottom-high-diaries-how-to-spot-a-dud-teacher/#comment-12568</link>
		<dc:creator>dermot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was the story where they ended up carrying the horse to market. I&#039;m not a teacher but felt like it many times.</description>
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		<title>By: dermot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/25/lowbottom-high-diaries-how-to-spot-a-dud-teacher/#comment-12569</link>
		<dc:creator>dermot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was the story where they ended up carrying the horse to market. I&#039;m not a teacher but felt like it many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was the story where they ended up carrying the horse to market. I&#8217;m not a teacher but felt like it many times.</p>
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		<title>By: john t</title>
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		<dc:creator>john t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mr Diogenes, you sum it up pretty well. As a former teacher of years ago, I still have twinges of guilt about what I inflicted on students - in the interest of using modern methods, or observing the new pedagogy, or out of a slump in my motivation. From my own recollections of being a pupil,it seems however that children, so long as they have one or two teachers they can admire and even be inspired by, can get along quite well - provided they ar kept clear of damage done by the willful child haters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, my occasional experiences, as child and as teacher, with a bunch of collaborating, inspired teachers, including way-out unconventional minds, have taken me many orders of magnitude above the delivery of a few positives and minimal negatives that seems to be so common in schools.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, Mr Diogenes, do you think there&#039;s any hope at all in having teachers&#039; unions accept any of the various ways of appraising individual teachers, or stimulating clusters of excellence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe the dear old inspectors had some value by telling teachers like it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mr Diogenes, you sum it up pretty well. As a former teacher of years ago, I still have twinges of guilt about what I inflicted on students - in the interest of using modern methods, or observing the new pedagogy, or out of a slump in my motivation. From my own recollections of being a pupil,it seems however that children, so long as they have one or two teachers they can admire and even be inspired by, can get along quite well - provided they ar kept clear of damage done by the willful child haters.</p>
<p>However, my occasional experiences, as child and as teacher, with a bunch of collaborating, inspired teachers, including way-out unconventional minds, have taken me many orders of magnitude above the delivery of a few positives and minimal negatives that seems to be so common in schools.</p>
<p>So, Mr Diogenes, do you think there&#8217;s any hope at all in having teachers&#8217; unions accept any of the various ways of appraising individual teachers, or stimulating clusters of excellence?</p>
<p>Maybe the dear old inspectors had some value by telling teachers like it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Goodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is Trevor Diogenes he sounds like and ex dud teacher? Takes one to know one I suppose. If one is to take issue with the performance on teachers then surely they need to look at performance not personal traits unrelated to the task of teaching. Things such as how they read the newspaper and how they dress are not relevant to any assessment of their performance. Mark this correspondence down as a dud incapable of any intelligent analysis of what constitutes a good teacher.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P.S I am not a teacher but a parent of four children in the system. Give me the spy newspaper reader in bulky knits that produces students that perform above a  correspondent that just hates teachers who may be seen bobbing like driftwood carried downstream by the swollen surge of bad experiences as a child who just hates teachers. &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Trevor Diogenes he sounds like and ex dud teacher? Takes one to know one I suppose. If one is to take issue with the performance on teachers then surely they need to look at performance not personal traits unrelated to the task of teaching. Things such as how they read the newspaper and how they dress are not relevant to any assessment of their performance. Mark this correspondence down as a dud incapable of any intelligent analysis of what constitutes a good teacher.</p>
<p>P.S I am not a teacher but a parent of four children in the system. Give me the spy newspaper reader in bulky knits that produces students that perform above a  correspondent that just hates teachers who may be seen bobbing like driftwood carried downstream by the swollen surge of bad experiences as a child who just hates teachers. </p>
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