Comments on: Antarctica: what gives? http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/ now with extra source Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:41:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Richard McGuire http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/#comment-1038 Richard McGuire Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1038 Ian McHugh's summary of what is causing the weather anomalies in the Antacrtic is surely something Richard Farmer could have easily discovered for himself. During his forays into the climate change issue Richard has cited Nigel Lawson, and the Institute of Public Affairs. In his January 7th piece "If the globe is warming why is the Antarctic cooling?" Richard gleefully quotes from a New York Times article, by libertarian smart arse, and climate change sceptic John Tierney. After each of his forays into the climate change debate Crikey received corespondence pointing out many of things covered by Ian McHugh. Is it any wonder people are asking just where is Richard Farmer coming from on the climate change issue? Ian McHugh’s summary of what is causing the weather anomalies in the Antacrtic is surely something Richard Farmer could have easily discovered for himself. During his forays into the climate change issue Richard has cited Nigel Lawson, and the Institute of Public Affairs. In his January 7th piece “If the globe is warming why is the Antarctic cooling?” Richard gleefully quotes from a New York Times article, by libertarian smart arse, and climate change sceptic John Tierney. After each of his forays into the climate change debate Crikey received corespondence pointing out many of things covered by Ian McHugh. Is it any wonder people are asking just where is Richard Farmer coming from on the climate change issue?

]]> By: John Lewis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/#comment-1039 John Lewis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1039 Is there any chance of getting Ian McHugh to write in English? Is there any chance of getting Ian McHugh to write in English?

]]> By: Hank van Apeldoorn http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/#comment-1040 Hank van Apeldoorn Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1040 Congratulations to Ian McHugh for his well presented "Antarctica: what gives?" in today's Crikey<br /><br />In south western NSW I am surrounded by people who recognise that dry land farming here could be on the verge of collapse, but still believe we are suffering from an extended drought and water shortages in the Murray Darling system that have nothing to do with climate change. Ian would you please put pen to paper once again and have a go at explaining what is going on here in layman's terms.<br /><br />Hank van Apeldoorn<br />Balranald NSW Congratulations to Ian McHugh for his well presented “Antarctica: what gives?” in today’s Crikey

In south western NSW I am surrounded by people who recognise that dry land farming here could be on the verge of collapse, but still believe we are suffering from an extended drought and water shortages in the Murray Darling system that have nothing to do with climate change. Ian would you please put pen to paper once again and have a go at explaining what is going on here in layman’s terms.

Hank van Apeldoorn
Balranald NSW

]]> By: RJG http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/#comment-1041 RJG Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1041 A question for the neo-classical economists. Why is it that so much store is placed on the economic modelling of markets by those same ecomomists, yet they cannot bring themselves to believe the validity climate models. <br /><br />Climate models are based on fundamental physical science which has enabled the very technological miracles on which our modern economies are based. Climate models are thoroughly tested against past climate variations and uncertainties are quantified. Economic models, however, are built on the back of the soft social sciences which are rarely if ever are the subject of multiple rigourous scientific experiments using controls as a base on which to test assumptions and outcomes. Unlike the climate models economic models often become self fullfilling prophecies. The economist models the "recession we had to have" so everyone gets depressed, stops spending and sure eonough the eonomic model was right. <br /><br />Perhaps if we can get the climate modellers to model "no climate change" the climate would fall into line and we could all get on with business as usual. <br /><br /> A question for the neo-classical economists. Why is it that so much store is placed on the economic modelling of markets by those same ecomomists, yet they cannot bring themselves to believe the validity climate models.

Climate models are based on fundamental physical science which has enabled the very technological miracles on which our modern economies are based. Climate models are thoroughly tested against past climate variations and uncertainties are quantified. Economic models, however, are built on the back of the soft social sciences which are rarely if ever are the subject of multiple rigourous scientific experiments using controls as a base on which to test assumptions and outcomes. Unlike the climate models economic models often become self fullfilling prophecies. The economist models the “recession we had to have” so everyone gets depressed, stops spending and sure eonough the eonomic model was right.

Perhaps if we can get the climate modellers to model “no climate change” the climate would fall into line and we could all get on with business as usual.

]]> By: Hank van Apeldoorn http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/16/antarctica-what-gives/#comment-1042 Hank van Apeldoorn Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-1042 Congratulations to Ian McHugh for his well presented "Antarctica: what gives?" in today's Crikey<br /><br />In south western NSW I am surrounded by people who recognise that dry land farming here could be on the verge of collapse, but still believe we are suffering from an extended drought and water shortages in the Murray Darling system that have nothing to do with climate change. Ian would you please put pen to paper once again and have a go at explaining what is going on here in layman's terms.<br /><br />Hank van Apeldoorn<br />Balranald NSW Congratulations to Ian McHugh for his well presented “Antarctica: what gives?” in today’s Crikey

In south western NSW I am surrounded by people who recognise that dry land farming here could be on the verge of collapse, but still believe we are suffering from an extended drought and water shortages in the Murray Darling system that have nothing to do with climate change. Ian would you please put pen to paper once again and have a go at explaining what is going on here in layman’s terms.

Hank van Apeldoorn
Balranald NSW

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