Why “cosmic” Dave?; why not similarly meaning words like: infinite, limitless, universal, ubiquitous,vast, catholic……Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient?

Good piece in today’s SMH from Gerard Henderson on criticising the pope bashing “sneering secularists - a combination of proselytising atheists and Green Left Weekly reading leftists”:

“If you only listened to the sneering secularists you would get the impression that Catholicism is somehow responsible for high birth rates and the spread of HIV/AIDS. In fact, population growth is highest in the Middle East and sub-Sahara Africa where the Catholic Church is not strong. Likewise, there is no correlation between the spread of HIV/AIDS and the strength of Catholicism.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-sorry-sport-of-pope-bashing/2008/07/14/1215887535962.html

And Henderson is an agnostic.

Wrong. Hitler is certainly NOT a catholic. Here is why.

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If Nazism represented the culmination of anything, it was that of the nineteenth-century and early-twentieth century ideology of social Darwinism. As historian Richard Weikart documents, both Hitler and Himmler were admirers of Darwin and often spoke of their role as enacting a “law of nature” that guaranteed the “elimination of the unfit.” Weikart argues that Hitler himself “drew upon a bountiful fund of social Darwinist thought to construct his own racist philosophy” and concludes that while Darwinism is not a “sufficient” intellectual explanation for Nazism, it is a “necessary” one. Without Darwinism, there might not have been Nazism.

The Nazis also drew on the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, adapting his atheist philosophy to their crude purposes. Nietzsche’s vision of the ubermensch and his elevation of a new ethic “beyond good and evil” were avidly embraced by Nazi propagandists. Nietzsche’s “will to power” almost became a Nazi recruitment slogan. I am not for a moment suggesting that Darwin or Nietzsche would have approved of Hitler’s ideas. But Hitler and his henchmen approved of Darwin’s and Nietzsche’s ideas. Harris simply ignores the evidence of the Nazis’ sympathies for Darwin, Nietzsche, and atheism. So what sense can we make of his claim that the leading Nazis were “knowingly or unknowingly” agents of religion? Clearly, it is nonsense.

So in addition to the mountain of corpses that the God-hating regimes of Stalin, Mao, Pot Pot and others have produced, we must add the body count of the God-hating Nazi regime. The Nazis, like the Communists, deliberately targeted the churches and the believers because they wanted to create a new man and a new utopia freed from the shackles of traditional religion and traditional morality. In an earlier blog, I asked what is atheism’s contribution to civilization? One answer to that question: Genocide.

Ref: Was Hitler a Christian?

by Dinesh D’Souza

“Perhaps the fact that Murdoch is an RC might have something to do with the coverage”. Andrew Murdoch is anglican.

Mark virtually no German youth declined to join the hitler youth. it did not mean hardship it meant being sent to a death camp. many boys like one of my teachers went to Hitler youth in the morning mass at lunchtime. What would you have done?

Quote “It really p…ses me off that the superstitious think that you have to have a belief in a big daddy in the sky in order to have a moral basis to your life. The answer is simple: self-respect. Or, as the late great humanist and author Kurt Vonnegut said, “Goddammit, you gotta be kind.” Unquote

1. Do you think it is “superstitious to believe we are here by big bang and for no purpose?

2. Do you believe it is superstitious and the Atheists look utterly foolish to believe humans were transformed from apes over a million years?

3. Isn’t superstitious and dangerous to believe we are no more special than bacteria and virus and no more special than animals?

4. You guys make assumptions to explain pre-big bang, don’t you think that is supersitious and a belief?

5. If God is not the basis of morality to a person’s life then what is?

6. What is the basis of self-respect and kindness?

7. If it is all about self-respect and kindness, why was that absent in Atheistic societies around the world? Why did the Atheist Communist states end up killing 300 + million men, women and children to create utopian Atheist societies around the world?

Atheism (it is a belief system and a religion in Australia and U.S) is the worst ideology humanity has ever seen. Mind you Karl Marx said “Communism begins where Atheism begins” Before you preach any further please confront this Atheist brutality and Atheist gulags (try China and North Korea) around the world.

May “Darwin” god bless you!

In fact almost any individual of below average intelligence and above would reasonably agree that the piece was provocative.

There are 77 odd comments and most do not really respond to the article directly. For most it served as a discussion topic not at all directly related to the petty themes of the article.

I must admit to being perplexed by your opinion that it “clearly frightened those seeking immortality”.
Perhaps you have the prejudiced view that people of faith in some way unnaturally fear death or perhaps that people of faith who no longer fear death now fear silly articles by Bernard Keane?

Either proposition is clearly idiotic at best. Lastly your: “& they put a pea or two under the mattresses of those not prey for it” comment sounds frankly like the rantings of an insane person.

“The sun set on the 20th century more than four years ago but you can still see a blood-red glow on the horizon. The century that saw unprecedented technological progress also saw unprecedented slaughter. Previously, religion had served mankind’s deep needs for explanation, order, spiritual comfort and transcendental meaning. Now a new and hideous thing was summoned up to serve the same needs. The thing was ideology, and in a few decades it caused more bloodshed than millennia of religion. It was darker and more irrational, and contained within it something unknown to all the Religions of the Book: a death wish. Religious leaders, however bad they may be, however prone to hubris and hatred, are constrained by fear of God above and by ancient tradition and wisdom. Ideological leaders have no such constraints.”

Ref: Which kills more: ideology or religion?, Andrew Kenny

Unprecendent Slaughter - Do you get it? 300 million innocent women, children and men were (and still is) slaughtered for Atheism. When exposed you guys can’t stand the heat. Confront reality, ask the religious for forgiveness and show some humanity.

Then we have the moral values of the Catholic Church. All those men in cassocks, kindly faces beaming down at children, wondering which boy in the class might have the best ‘b*ttom like a pe*ch.’ Then, when one of them gets sprung, it’s like the coming together of a million Ravens. All the Holy Romans rushing in, defending the guilty party. This is religion? As I said in another part of Crikey; “it is in the interests of Catholicism to drag everything and everybody down to the lowest common denominator. Hence the great ‘Australian chip-on-the-Shoulder Syndrome’. Why don’t they stick to b*ggery? At least that doesn’t reek of condescension. It’s an unpleasant fact that Catholics get more out of life defending the indefensible, rather than enjoying this wonderful planet. And that my friends, equals a very sick and foetid religion.

The new (not new really) “intolerant secularism” is NOT typical bollocks, Bernard. My research tells me it is brutal. All you need is the courage and the intellectual and professional honesty to admit it. I know it is hard for secularists or Atheists (well it is one and the same, the difference is the packaging) to admit it. This is what is going through your mind. “How can the elitist crowd you know ppl who are into so called reason and science be intolerant?”

Bernard, Secularism is not just about the separation of Church and state. Today it is the most intolerant ideology that is used to repress the religious and freedom of speech. It is a state tool to impose Atheism through the public institutions like public schools, media etc. Many in media today are the representatives of Atheist religion (yep, Atheism is a religion in Australia and U.S).

By the way here is a few (I can list heaps more) examples of modern secular/Atheist intolerance/violence. How would you justify this secular/Atheist intolerance. Not bad even Atheists have “jihadists” who wouldn’t mind strapping a bomb for secularism/Atheism.

Have a look at what the secularists/godless are up to and you can draw your own conclusions if we are safer from bloodshed in a secular/Atheistic world.

ATHEIST BIGOTS
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“As an Atheist I find many fellow Atheists very bigoted. Although I don’t believe in God, I don’t use that as an excuse to bash Christians for their beleifs as many do. I have never heard a Christian say ban Atheism unlike many Atheists wanting to ban religion. Learn to accept differing opinions.”

Posted by: Another Atheist of Brissy 06:33pm Thursday 26th June

http://tools.goldcoast.com.au/yoursay/comment_all.php

SECULAR/ATHEISTIC VIOLENCE
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ANKARA: Turkish authorities have detained at least 21 hardline nationalists, including two prominent retired generals, in a widening police investigation into a suspected coup plot.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the detentions were linked to the investigation into Ergenekon, a shadowy hardline secularist group suspected of planning bombings and assassinations calculated to trigger an army takeover.

“It is not the AK party they cannot tolerate - what they can’t tolerate is democracy, the national will, the people’s feelings and thoughts,” Mr Erdogan said.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23959304-2703,00.html

Quote “Atheist “belief system”, as you errantly call it,” Unquote

I am not in a intolerant delusionist like Atheist Pope Dawkin or Hitchens or the Atheist MULLAH Harris. Here is why I say “Atheism” is a belief system. To start off “Atheism” is a religion in Australia and U.S.

Atheism is more than a belief. It is an ideology/doctrine, a belief system and a lifestyle. In a nutshell it is values based.

Atheism, in this day and age when religion is all around us, is not simple non-belief. Ignorance is non-belief. Atheism is a conscious decision to disregard the gods and theology proposed in different religions.

It’s disbelief. It’s making a stand and saying, “Your theistic belief system is bunk, and here is why I think so”. The irony is that such a stance is the creation of another belief system, which can turn itself into a religion.

a) Athiesm is certainly an IDEOLOGY.

Here is what I mean when I say atheism is an ideology…….

1 The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture.

2. A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system.

BASIC DOCTRINE’S OR TENETS OF ATHEISM

There is no definitive atheist organization that defines the absolutes of atheism, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t some common, there are basic principles that atheists, as a whole, tend to adopt. Listed below are some of them.

Pease note, however, that not all atheists accept all of these tenets.

Believes -

1. There is no God or devil.

2. There is no supernatural realm.

3. Miracles cannot occur.

4. There is no such thing as sin as a violation of God’s will.

5. Generally, the universe is materialistic and measurable.

6. Man is material.

7. Generally, evolution is considered a scientific fact.

8. Ethics and morals are relative

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