Comments on: Death of BB marks an end to cruel, crude reality TV http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:51:37 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Gillian http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3966 Gillian Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3966 Re your rant about the nasty imported franchise from Britain Big Brother. It's actually a nasty imported franchise from Holland. <br /><br />Let's hope some great British TV replaces the dross that is the Australian version of BB! Re your rant about the nasty imported franchise from Britain Big Brother. It’s actually a nasty imported franchise from Holland.

Let’s hope some great British TV replaces the dross that is the Australian version of BB!

]]> By: Daniel Ashdown http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3967 Daniel Ashdown Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3967 Underbelly was good for Australian TV, and better than the various CSI programs, but better than The Sopranos or The Wire? Hardly. Underbelly was good for Australian TV, and better than the various CSI programs, but better than The Sopranos or The Wire? Hardly.

]]> By: davo http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3968 davo Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3968 Hallelujah. Next thing, the professional castration and euthanisation of Tim Clucas (has any man put more sh*t on Australian tv?), Sandilands, Jacki O, every contestant ever, Gretel Killeen, Mike Goldman, Bree, the other idiot and everyone who ever had anythin to do with this show.<br /><br />Tony Squires is the underrated 'showkiller' talent - has anything he's ever done lasted more than a season? His forced, irritating, yet bland non-persona has what? Showed that as a tv performer, he was a good tv critic. And in fact, he's the second worst tv critic the country has seen (after the execrable Ruth Richie).<br /><br />And, re: Idol - we don't have the talent pool. Same for Dance - Both Idol and Dance can get some terrific people? but 25 a season? Not every season. Make them bi- or even tri- yearly.<br /><br /> Hallelujah. Next thing, the professional castration and euthanisation of Tim Clucas (has any man put more sh*t on Australian tv?), Sandilands, Jacki O, every contestant ever, Gretel Killeen, Mike Goldman, Bree, the other idiot and everyone who ever had anythin to do with this show.

Tony Squires is the underrated ‘showkiller’ talent - has anything he’s ever done lasted more than a season? His forced, irritating, yet bland non-persona has what? Showed that as a tv performer, he was a good tv critic. And in fact, he’s the second worst tv critic the country has seen (after the execrable Ruth Richie).

And, re: Idol - we don’t have the talent pool. Same for Dance - Both Idol and Dance can get some terrific people? but 25 a season? Not every season. Make them bi- or even tri- yearly.

]]> By: Bernard Kealey http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3969 Bernard Kealey Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3969 with the exception of Operatunity, I have not watched 5 minutes (probably cumulative) of "Reality TV" for about 3 years now. It has gotten to the stage where I only turn on ABC or SBS so that I don't even have to worry about enduring an ad for this garbage.<br /><br />I am led to believe that there is some worthwhile stuff on commercial TV; maybe it will be safe for me to tune back to those stations soon.<br /><br />Does this indicate that we may be seeing a turnaround from the Dumbing Down of "popular culture"? While I hope so, blue is not my colour, so I'm not holding my breath... with the exception of Operatunity, I have not watched 5 minutes (probably cumulative) of “Reality TV” for about 3 years now. It has gotten to the stage where I only turn on ABC or SBS so that I don’t even have to worry about enduring an ad for this garbage.

I am led to believe that there is some worthwhile stuff on commercial TV; maybe it will be safe for me to tune back to those stations soon.

Does this indicate that we may be seeing a turnaround from the Dumbing Down of “popular culture”? While I hope so, blue is not my colour, so I’m not holding my breath…

]]> By: Bradley http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3970 Bradley Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3970 According to Wiki (And other sources), Jackie O has hosted a variety of television shows:<br /><br />The Pop stars series, in which televised auditions were held to select members of a vocal group. Previously a television smash hit before the emergence of Idol, ratings plummeted and it was cancelled.<br /><br />In 2005, Jackie O also hosted the Network Ten reality show, Australian Princess, in which they transformed a group of women into sophisticated "princesses". A second series of Australian Princess has gone to air during the non-ratings summer period on Network 10. In other words, ratings sucked and it was buried. As an added bonus, in 2006 Jackie O's woeful performance as host of this show meant she was voted Australia's Worst Female TV Personality on Australian TV (The Fuglies - Australian anti-television awards). <br /><br />In June 2007, she was a cast member of The Nation airing on the Nine Network. It was a ratings disaster and it was cancelled.<br /><br />Jackie also joint hosted the comedy show Surprise Surprise Gotcha on the same network, the series has been called the Australian version of Punk'd which was made famous by pranking many celebrities. It was a ratings disaster and it was cancelled.<br /><br />On October 28th 2007, Jackie O along with her radio partner Kyle Sandilands took Gretel Killeen's job in hosting the 2008 series of Big Brother Australia, Killeen hosted the show (a rating behemoth and huge revenue generator for the network) from its start in 2001 to her removal in 2007. Ratings plummeted and today Monday July 14th, 2008, it was also cancelled. <br /><br />That's a pretty rotten record…! What other shows do the networks need to get rid of? Maybe they should call her up! lol!<br /><br />Jump the Shark has a new Queen!! All hail Jackie O! According to Wiki (And other sources), Jackie O has hosted a variety of television shows:

The Pop stars series, in which televised auditions were held to select members of a vocal group. Previously a television smash hit before the emergence of Idol, ratings plummeted and it was cancelled.

In 2005, Jackie O also hosted the Network Ten reality show, Australian Princess, in which they transformed a group of women into sophisticated “princesses”. A second series of Australian Princess has gone to air during the non-ratings summer period on Network 10. In other words, ratings sucked and it was buried. As an added bonus, in 2006 Jackie O’s woeful performance as host of this show meant she was voted Australia’s Worst Female TV Personality on Australian TV (The Fuglies - Australian anti-television awards).

In June 2007, she was a cast member of The Nation airing on the Nine Network. It was a ratings disaster and it was cancelled.

Jackie also joint hosted the comedy show Surprise Surprise Gotcha on the same network, the series has been called the Australian version of Punk’d which was made famous by pranking many celebrities. It was a ratings disaster and it was cancelled.

On October 28th 2007, Jackie O along with her radio partner Kyle Sandilands took Gretel Killeen’s job in hosting the 2008 series of Big Brother Australia, Killeen hosted the show (a rating behemoth and huge revenue generator for the network) from its start in 2001 to her removal in 2007. Ratings plummeted and today Monday July 14th, 2008, it was also cancelled.

That’s a pretty rotten record…! What other shows do the networks need to get rid of? Maybe they should call her up! lol!

Jump the Shark has a new Queen!! All hail Jackie O!

]]> By: Connor Moran http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3971 Connor Moran Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3971 Bradley, that was GOLD! Do you have anything similar for Kyle? Bradley, that was GOLD! Do you have anything similar for Kyle?

]]> By: skink http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3972 skink Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3972 do you really believe that Underbelly was top notch drama? There are better storylines and more social commentary in a single episode of The Bill than the entire series of Underbelly, which came across as a sophomore attempt to make inept Melbourne crims look like Scorcese.<br /><br />most of the really progressive drama from the UK doesn't get much of an airing here, but if you think that Aussie TV produces anything as good as Skins, Queer as Folk, Life on Mars etc etc then you are as sheltered and parochial as Kath and Kim.<br /><br />and FYI:<br />Big Brother came from Holland<br />Play School comes from the UK<br />Hollowmen is a ripoff of The Thick of It<br />and the only truly original TV to come out of Australia is The Upside Down Show do you really believe that Underbelly was top notch drama? There are better storylines and more social commentary in a single episode of The Bill than the entire series of Underbelly, which came across as a sophomore attempt to make inept Melbourne crims look like Scorcese.

most of the really progressive drama from the UK doesn’t get much of an airing here, but if you think that Aussie TV produces anything as good as Skins, Queer as Folk, Life on Mars etc etc then you are as sheltered and parochial as Kath and Kim.

and FYI:
Big Brother came from Holland
Play School comes from the UK
Hollowmen is a ripoff of The Thick of It
and the only truly original TV to come out of Australia is The Upside Down Show

]]> By: nic http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3973 nic Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3973 British crime thrillers have always done well in Australia. You cannot turn on a tv on a friday night without coming across one or another. I fail to see how you can connect Big Brother (a Dutch originated program, not British) with British crime dramas and then blame it on an Australian (Rupert Murdoch). Do the editors review your rants, or are you allowed to make up anything you like? British crime thrillers have always done well in Australia. You cannot turn on a tv on a friday night without coming across one or another. I fail to see how you can connect Big Brother (a Dutch originated program, not British) with British crime dramas and then blame it on an Australian (Rupert Murdoch). Do the editors review your rants, or are you allowed to make up anything you like?

]]> By: craig http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3974 craig Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3974 "Underbelly was a class above any crime-related drama we have seen from overseas."<br />I dont think so, Crime shows like The Sopranos and The Shield make underbelly look like it was made by schoolkids. “Underbelly was a class above any crime-related drama we have seen from overseas.”
I dont think so, Crime shows like The Sopranos and The Shield make underbelly look like it was made by schoolkids.

]]> By: onamission http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3975 onamission Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3975 nic I think you'll find Seven and ABC reap the Friday night British crime drama ratings bonanza you speak of when most people under 50 are either out or watching the football on Nine. It's more like a white flag than an attempt to win back viewers. The excellent Spooks is oddly out of place amongst the usual codger-codgerette crusader-for-justice most of them employ.<br /><br />I think you'd also be the only one still considering Rupert to be an Australian. nic I think you’ll find Seven and ABC reap the Friday night British crime drama ratings bonanza you speak of when most people under 50 are either out or watching the football on Nine. It’s more like a white flag than an attempt to win back viewers. The excellent Spooks is oddly out of place amongst the usual codger-codgerette crusader-for-justice most of them employ.

I think you’d also be the only one still considering Rupert to be an Australian.

]]> By: Connor Moran http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3976 Connor Moran Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3976 At last! The death of BB has taken way too long in Australia. Kyle and Jackie-O are Z-list not fit for Ed Wood extras.<br /><br />Now we need an attack on all these crime/forensic shows that have murders being performed or recreated or people being cut open. Doesn't anyone else find the idea of watching this "material" somewhat bizarre? Don't people have REAL problems to get off their arses to solve or something they could do better in their own lives with that time? At last! The death of BB has taken way too long in Australia. Kyle and Jackie-O are Z-list not fit for Ed Wood extras.

Now we need an attack on all these crime/forensic shows that have murders being performed or recreated or people being cut open. Doesn’t anyone else find the idea of watching this “material” somewhat bizarre? Don’t people have REAL problems to get off their arses to solve or something they could do better in their own lives with that time?

]]> By: Connor Moran http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/death-of-bb-marks-an-end-to-cruel-crude-reality-tv/#comment-3977 Connor Moran Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-3977 At last! The death of BB has taken way too long in Australia. Kyle and Jackie-O are Z-list not fit for Ed Wood extras.<br /><br />Now we need an attack on all these crime/forensic shows that have murders being performed or recreated or people being cut open. Doesn't anyone else find the idea of watching this "material" somewhat bizarre? Don't people have REAL problems to get off their arses to solve or something they could do better in their own lives with that time? At last! The death of BB has taken way too long in Australia. Kyle and Jackie-O are Z-list not fit for Ed Wood extras.

Now we need an attack on all these crime/forensic shows that have murders being performed or recreated or people being cut open. Doesn’t anyone else find the idea of watching this “material” somewhat bizarre? Don’t people have REAL problems to get off their arses to solve or something they could do better in their own lives with that time?

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