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	<title>Comments on: Burn Brendan Nelson, save the planet</title>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/burn-brendan-nelson-save-the-planet/#comment-11373</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought they called it &#039;Gardening Leave&#039; . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought they called it &#8216;Gardening Leave&#8217; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rpg</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/burn-brendan-nelson-save-the-planet/#comment-11374</link>
		<dc:creator>rpg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good thing you&#039;re objective about Brendan Nelson and climate change or you could be mistaken for a religous hysterical ranter.  How do you deal with things you don&#039;t agree with? You shouldn&#039;t hold back the way you do - come on, we all really want to know what you think rather than reporting both sides of the climate change debate the way you do, oh .. sorry, you don&#039;t. So it&#039;s just your personal thoughts here and any gossip you can dream up ..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing you&#8217;re objective about Brendan Nelson and climate change or you could be mistaken for a religous hysterical ranter.  How do you deal with things you don&#8217;t agree with? You shouldn&#8217;t hold back the way you do - come on, we all really want to know what you think rather than reporting both sides of the climate change debate the way you do, oh .. sorry, you don&#8217;t. So it&#8217;s just your personal thoughts here and any gossip you can dream up ..?</p>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/burn-brendan-nelson-save-the-planet/#comment-11375</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be innumerate and economically illiterate not to understand the merit of Henry Ergas&#039;s arguments put in at least two articles in The Australian, the latest (14/7) cogent in its criticisms of the Garnaut reports weaknesses and omissions. &lt;br /&gt;By the way, if you can see why it might be important that infra red absorption could be logarithmic rather than linear, have a look at http://brneurosci.org/co2.html and search for &quot;logarithmic&quot;.  Consider the possibility that any more CO2 in the atmosphere mightn&#039;t absorb much more heat.  Not that it is part of Henry Ergas&#039;s arguments, which don&#039;t depend in any way on the CO2 threat not being as serious as the IPCC and Garnaut represent it.  (Ergas points out however that Garnaut&#039;s figures for the damage done to our economy if not ETS was set up wouldn&#039;t be very great and don&#039;t justify any great sacrifices now). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be innumerate and economically illiterate not to understand the merit of Henry Ergas&#8217;s arguments put in at least two articles in The Australian, the latest (14/7) cogent in its criticisms of the Garnaut reports weaknesses and omissions. <br />By the way, if you can see why it might be important that infra red absorption could be logarithmic rather than linear, have a look at <a href="http://brneurosci.org/co2.html" rel="nofollow">http://brneurosci.org/co2.html</a> and search for &#8220;logarithmic&#8221;.  Consider the possibility that any more CO2 in the atmosphere mightn&#8217;t absorb much more heat.  Not that it is part of Henry Ergas&#8217;s arguments, which don&#8217;t depend in any way on the CO2 threat not being as serious as the IPCC and Garnaut represent it.  (Ergas points out however that Garnaut&#8217;s figures for the damage done to our economy if not ETS was set up wouldn&#8217;t be very great and don&#8217;t justify any great sacrifices now).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/burn-brendan-nelson-save-the-planet/#comment-11376</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicians talk, reporters report the talk and add alot of their own, including me. Personally I think the whole thing is OVER and the government can&#039;t do anything to stop the train wreck. Now they want to be SEEN taking action. Especially politicians who have spent their whole working lives promoting the 20C endless growth economy and taking all those juicy donations along the way. I mean who do these folks think they are kidding? Talk about credibility gap. It&#039;s all a bit rich if you ask me. I&#039;ve been working on a case involving a water bottling company Coca Cola who have been given an increase from 26ML/YR to 66ML/YR extraction of groundwater in 2005 at Peats Ridge while farmers nearby making much smaller applications for water to grow food near the city (less greenhouse emissions) are knocked back. The difference? About $2M in political donations to the Carr-Iemma Govt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians talk, reporters report the talk and add alot of their own, including me. Personally I think the whole thing is OVER and the government can&#8217;t do anything to stop the train wreck. Now they want to be SEEN taking action. Especially politicians who have spent their whole working lives promoting the 20C endless growth economy and taking all those juicy donations along the way. I mean who do these folks think they are kidding? Talk about credibility gap. It&#8217;s all a bit rich if you ask me. I&#8217;ve been working on a case involving a water bottling company Coca Cola who have been given an increase from 26ML/YR to 66ML/YR extraction of groundwater in 2005 at Peats Ridge while farmers nearby making much smaller applications for water to grow food near the city (less greenhouse emissions) are knocked back. The difference? About $2M in political donations to the Carr-Iemma Govt.</p>
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		<title>By: Bev</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/14/burn-brendan-nelson-save-the-planet/#comment-11377</link>
		<dc:creator>Bev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard -  your comments are spot on about Brendan Nelson&#039;s past week but what was with the ABC&#039;s so called Political Reporter Chris Uhlmann yesterday.   When asked on Insiders about Nelson&#039;s performance he asked &#039;to pass&#039; on commenting!!   What do you make of that.&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not averse to Penny Wong&#039;s performance so far.   I like her measured, non-frightening style of speaking.  I want a very measured, calm person in control of this stuff and not the ramrod approach of Christine Milne. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard -  your comments are spot on about Brendan Nelson&#8217;s past week but what was with the ABC&#8217;s so called Political Reporter Chris Uhlmann yesterday.   When asked on Insiders about Nelson&#8217;s performance he asked &#8216;to pass&#8217; on commenting!!   What do you make of that.<br />I&#8217;m not averse to Penny Wong&#8217;s performance so far.   I like her measured, non-frightening style of speaking.  I want a very measured, calm person in control of this stuff and not the ramrod approach of Christine Milne.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that should have read to both major parties in NSW, over the last 10 years or so. My mistake. Can&#039;t sledge Morris and Bob for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that should have read to both major parties in NSW, over the last 10 years or so. My mistake. Can&#8217;t sledge Morris and Bob for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the words Brendan Nelson and intellectually are mutually exclusive?  I&#039;m afraid it is time for Malcolm Turnbull to step up. However, there is a very real risk he will talk everything into the ground; Including our poor country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the words Brendan Nelson and intellectually are mutually exclusive?  I&#8217;m afraid it is time for Malcolm Turnbull to step up. However, there is a very real risk he will talk everything into the ground; Including our poor country.</p>
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