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	<title>Comments on: Struggling to laud Lord Downer? Look to Ceaucescu</title>
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		<title>By: JamesK                                        </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17082</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK                                        </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that mean that I should assume that you are &quot;with humour&quot; .....now, John?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that mean that I should assume that you are &#8220;with humour&#8221; &#8230;..now, John?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17083</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,&lt;br /&gt;    I&#039;m new to Crikey. This is the first article I clicked on. If this is what passes for comment &amp; debate, I&#039;m glad it&#039;s a free trial.&lt;br /&gt;   Any journo whose sole occupation is to egage in boosterism for either side of polotics, is not worth the ink. I stopped read albrechtsen or the shanahans years ago.&lt;br /&gt;  I foolishly thought the comments would be about downer, not the booster. I&#039;ll try eslswhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,<br />    I&#8217;m new to Crikey. This is the first article I clicked on. If this is what passes for comment &#038; debate, I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s a free trial.<br />   Any journo whose sole occupation is to egage in boosterism for either side of polotics, is not worth the ink. I stopped read albrechtsen or the shanahans years ago.<br />  I foolishly thought the comments would be about downer, not the booster. I&#8217;ll try eslswhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17084</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is hardly sarcasm if it is completely irrelevant to the subject material.  There is no similarity between her column and the Romanian government propoganda to be able to make the connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>It is hardly sarcasm if it is completely irrelevant to the subject material.  There is no similarity between her column and the Romanian government propoganda to be able to make the connection.</p>
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		<title>By: John Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17085</link>
		<dc:creator>John Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nic,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It might have gone past you.  It is a thing called sarcasm.  People with humour sometimes employ it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and Nic....I am using it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic,</p>
<p>It might have gone past you.  It is a thing called sarcasm.  People with humour sometimes employ it.</p>
<p>and Nic&#8230;.I am using it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17086</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Nic, your assessment of Janet Albrechtsen&#039;s freedom and Independence as an individual, does not comment on the quality, relevance or anything approaching reality let alone balance of the content of her now infamous role and efforts to bludgeon Australian public opinion to support narrow, self interested, self serving, born to rule, pathetic excuses for representatives as those she writes in support of and agitates for. It might well be considered, that if honesty were considered to have relevance in public life, Albrechtsen has all the intent and purpose of Husein&#039;s imagined WMDs.( That is to say, as imagined in the mind of Alexander Downer ).&lt;br /&gt;I think all the noble intent in the world will amount to nothing for John in your efforts to help James evolve and join the dots when confronted with sarcastic irony.&lt;br /&gt;On the topic of Orwellian state control. News Ltd...... Sean, I must contend has both sides of the dispatch box confined to the role of middle ranking serfs. &lt;br /&gt;It must be great to be able to allow ones self to not only be told what to think, but how strongly to think it. One might even be able to remain blissful to the fact that our future survival as a species is being driven out by such self interested forces!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Nic, your assessment of Janet Albrechtsen&#8217;s freedom and Independence as an individual, does not comment on the quality, relevance or anything approaching reality let alone balance of the content of her now infamous role and efforts to bludgeon Australian public opinion to support narrow, self interested, self serving, born to rule, pathetic excuses for representatives as those she writes in support of and agitates for. It might well be considered, that if honesty were considered to have relevance in public life, Albrechtsen has all the intent and purpose of Husein&#8217;s imagined WMDs.( That is to say, as imagined in the mind of Alexander Downer ).<br />I think all the noble intent in the world will amount to nothing for John in your efforts to help James evolve and join the dots when confronted with sarcastic irony.<br />On the topic of Orwellian state control. News Ltd&#8230;&#8230; Sean, I must contend has both sides of the dispatch box confined to the role of middle ranking serfs. <br />It must be great to be able to allow ones self to not only be told what to think, but how strongly to think it. One might even be able to remain blissful to the fact that our future survival as a species is being driven out by such self interested forces!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17087</link>
		<dc:creator>John Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JamesK &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stick with me...I can work with you on this.......you might learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesK </p>
<p>Stick with me&#8230;I can work with you on this&#8230;&#8230;.you might learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17088</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s about the only response you can make to propaganda concerning an unconvincing, appalling, effete hack of a politician with totally compromised values, by comparing the propaganda of Janet Albrechtsen  to the &#039;anonymous&#039; Romanian propaganda writers.  (The Anglosphere has celebrity propagandists! Hooray!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basically, it&#039;s Big Brother and 1984 on both sides of the aisle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s about the only response you can make to propaganda concerning an unconvincing, appalling, effete hack of a politician with totally compromised values, by comparing the propaganda of Janet Albrechtsen  to the &#8216;anonymous&#8217; Romanian propaganda writers.  (The Anglosphere has celebrity propagandists! Hooray!)</p>
<p>Basically, it&#8217;s Big Brother and 1984 on both sides of the aisle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet Albrechtsen in a free and independent newspaper writing about a former government minister (whose party is now in opposition) is compared to anonymous unsourced Romanian state writers in a communist dictatorship writing about the leader of the government while he was still in power.  I&#039;m sorry, I cannot see any link between the two.  What possible point is served by this garbage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet Albrechtsen in a free and independent newspaper writing about a former government minister (whose party is now in opposition) is compared to anonymous unsourced Romanian state writers in a communist dictatorship writing about the leader of the government while he was still in power.  I&#8217;m sorry, I cannot see any link between the two.  What possible point is served by this garbage?</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/02/struggling-to-laud-lord-downer-look-to-ceaucescu/#comment-17090</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of it as adolescent humour Nic and it sorta makes some sense. From a sober perspective it is as you say  &quot;garbage&quot; or perhaps puerile or properly quintessentially Guy Rundlesque. Welcome to Crikey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of it as adolescent humour Nic and it sorta makes some sense. From a sober perspective it is as you say  &#8220;garbage&#8221; or perhaps puerile or properly quintessentially Guy Rundlesque. Welcome to Crikey.</p>
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