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	<title>Comments on: Tsvangirai&#8217;s cop-out a defeat for democracy</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/24/tsvangirais-cop-out-a-defeat-for-democracy/#comment-17798</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, pull you pants down and get real.&lt;br /&gt;The gang of armed robbers has stormed in and with gun up manager’s throat tell him to open the safe. For over 24 hours I have heard media people, interviewers etc insinuate that the wealth they walk out with then rightly belongs to them.&lt;br /&gt;Now that your pants are down relieve yourself then come back when you’re reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;The great nations of the world sitting on all their power in the United Nations kindergarten (security council) play with words and politics just like Mugabe does farting sweet essences at each other while human bodies burn. The diagnosis of insanity and crime are multifocal and profound human disgrace befits us all. We have to suffer ownership of the good and the bad before anything will happen.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, pull you pants down and get real.<br />The gang of armed robbers has stormed in and with gun up manager’s throat tell him to open the safe. For over 24 hours I have heard media people, interviewers etc insinuate that the wealth they walk out with then rightly belongs to them.<br />Now that your pants are down relieve yourself then come back when you’re reasonable.<br />The great nations of the world sitting on all their power in the United Nations kindergarten (security council) play with words and politics just like Mugabe does farting sweet essences at each other while human bodies burn. The diagnosis of insanity and crime are multifocal and profound human disgrace befits us all. We have to suffer ownership of the good and the bad before anything will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: yvre</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/24/tsvangirais-cop-out-a-defeat-for-democracy/#comment-17799</link>
		<dc:creator>yvre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By what logic does Morgan T&#039;s decision render the suffering and sacfrice of those to date :meaningless&quot;?  this is absurd - Tsvangirai has withdrawn from a politically meaningless event that could not even be distinguished by the term &#039;formality&#039; in that atmosphere of madness created by a despot whose megalomania has been galloping unchecked now for years.  It is now well past time for the appropriately legitimated representatives of the WORLD to bring more MEANING to all the suffering and to this latest gesture of a courageous leader of a party of sanity.  Is southern Africa destined to descend in to a bloodbath whatever course is taken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By what logic does Morgan T&#8217;s decision render the suffering and sacfrice of those to date :meaningless&#8221;?  this is absurd - Tsvangirai has withdrawn from a politically meaningless event that could not even be distinguished by the term &#8216;formality&#8217; in that atmosphere of madness created by a despot whose megalomania has been galloping unchecked now for years.  It is now well past time for the appropriately legitimated representatives of the WORLD to bring more MEANING to all the suffering and to this latest gesture of a courageous leader of a party of sanity.  Is southern Africa destined to descend in to a bloodbath whatever course is taken?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/24/tsvangirais-cop-out-a-defeat-for-democracy/#comment-17800</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to know where James Hall writes from. From what I can gather Tsvangirai has pulled out of the election to try and stave off more violence against the people of Zimbabwe, the shame is not his but those who deliver the violence and those who have the means by which to stop it. Unlike the incumbent Tsvangirai has said time and time again he does not want to take power through the force of a gun. I&#039;d really like an example of the gun paying long-term dividends in any African country. Morgan is doing the right thing, its a pity SADC in particular wouldn&#039;t lend a bit more support</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to know where James Hall writes from. From what I can gather Tsvangirai has pulled out of the election to try and stave off more violence against the people of Zimbabwe, the shame is not his but those who deliver the violence and those who have the means by which to stop it. Unlike the incumbent Tsvangirai has said time and time again he does not want to take power through the force of a gun. I&#8217;d really like an example of the gun paying long-term dividends in any African country. Morgan is doing the right thing, its a pity SADC in particular wouldn&#8217;t lend a bit more support</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Uaithne</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/24/tsvangirais-cop-out-a-defeat-for-democracy/#comment-17801</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Uaithne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the ANC leaders who didnt get caught - like Oliver Tambo - were cowards for going into exile, were they? And Ramos-Horta and the other Fretilin who scattered to Mozambique and elsewhere and kept the movement going? De Gaulle who high-tailed it to London. We&#039;ll take your courage at its word, but sounds like Tsvangirai and the MDC made the strategically smart decision to keep the movement together by keeping its visible leader alive, as Mugabe further isolates himself. Oh and &#039;give me liberty or give me death&#039;? From the American revolution. The early leaders of that - Sam Adams and John Hancock - started the whole shooting war, and then went into hiding from the British. Thanks, James, but I think we&#039;ll trust Morgan on this one.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the ANC leaders who didnt get caught - like Oliver Tambo - were cowards for going into exile, were they? And Ramos-Horta and the other Fretilin who scattered to Mozambique and elsewhere and kept the movement going? De Gaulle who high-tailed it to London. We&#8217;ll take your courage at its word, but sounds like Tsvangirai and the MDC made the strategically smart decision to keep the movement together by keeping its visible leader alive, as Mugabe further isolates himself. Oh and &#8216;give me liberty or give me death&#8217;? From the American revolution. The early leaders of that - Sam Adams and John Hancock - started the whole shooting war, and then went into hiding from the British. Thanks, James, but I think we&#8217;ll trust Morgan on this one.</p>
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