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		<title>By: Jenny </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7174</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can assure your readers that there are NOT operational Night Patrols in all 73 NTER communities, as claimed in the Report Card.  Forming and managing a community patrol is a process that takes time, requires wide community support, needs to avoid the risks of ressource and discourse capture by dominant groups within remote communities, and requires at least some knowledge of Aboriginal cultural law.   Funding for NP&#039;s has been committed by the Federal Attorney-General&#039;s department, to the tune of 4 part-time positions in each of the identified communities.  However, this funding is being auspiced by a new and unwanted local government system of Shires, and is being administered by a bunch of bureaucrats with no idea of how patrols work (under Aboriginal political and legal systems that bear no relationship to non-indigenous political and legal systems), and no respect for the people they are working with.  The southern region of the NT has had patrols for more than twenty years, some of them very stable and effective, some less so.  Some communities have not had the human and other resources available to have an operational patrol.  Some are too dysfunctional.  The agenda is seemingly about ownership and control of patrols and their resources, not about supporting a unique and effective Aboriginal community safety initiative. There is an important distinction to be made here between community owned services such as patrols, and community based services - which are an alien service delivery model transposed into a remote community context.  Patrols are Aboriginal community OWNED in the best sense of the word.  The imposition of a top-down and inflexible management model for Patrols by government has the potential to destroy the very things that make them so successful, and to further undermine the cultural strengths they rely on.  Cultural law is not all about violent retribution - though this is the aspect of Aboriginal culture that is most appealing to the prurient interests of whitefella bureaucracies and media.  Aboriginal obligations and responsibilities to family are defined through a complex system of kinship and cultural law.  50,000 years of continuous culture without ever developing bureaucracies and government is a testament to the strength and functionality of Aboriginal cultural law (where it has survived in the interstices and remote places beyond whitefellas reach), and it is this system that patrols are based on.  Each remote community is different, requiring a different approach to support and configuration of patrols.  The flexibility, imagination and knowledge that would underpin a fruitful approach to the set up and ongoing management of patrols is not there in government or in the new Shires.  There is downright hostility from the new bureaucrats to anyone who does have some knowledge or experience in this area, as they do not want to have to take any previous experience, no matter how relevant, into account in setting up their new fiefdoms.  I have spent more than twenty years working in remote communities in the NT and am watching the baby being thrown out with the bathwater (again!) with horror.  It&#039;s back to assimilation now, - what&#039;s next?  Another giant leap backward to mission days??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can assure your readers that there are NOT operational Night Patrols in all 73 NTER communities, as claimed in the Report Card.  Forming and managing a community patrol is a process that takes time, requires wide community support, needs to avoid the risks of ressource and discourse capture by dominant groups within remote communities, and requires at least some knowledge of Aboriginal cultural law.   Funding for NP&#8217;s has been committed by the Federal Attorney-General&#8217;s department, to the tune of 4 part-time positions in each of the identified communities.  However, this funding is being auspiced by a new and unwanted local government system of Shires, and is being administered by a bunch of bureaucrats with no idea of how patrols work (under Aboriginal political and legal systems that bear no relationship to non-indigenous political and legal systems), and no respect for the people they are working with.  The southern region of the NT has had patrols for more than twenty years, some of them very stable and effective, some less so.  Some communities have not had the human and other resources available to have an operational patrol.  Some are too dysfunctional.  The agenda is seemingly about ownership and control of patrols and their resources, not about supporting a unique and effective Aboriginal community safety initiative. There is an important distinction to be made here between community owned services such as patrols, and community based services - which are an alien service delivery model transposed into a remote community context.  Patrols are Aboriginal community OWNED in the best sense of the word.  The imposition of a top-down and inflexible management model for Patrols by government has the potential to destroy the very things that make them so successful, and to further undermine the cultural strengths they rely on.  Cultural law is not all about violent retribution - though this is the aspect of Aboriginal culture that is most appealing to the prurient interests of whitefella bureaucracies and media.  Aboriginal obligations and responsibilities to family are defined through a complex system of kinship and cultural law.  50,000 years of continuous culture without ever developing bureaucracies and government is a testament to the strength and functionality of Aboriginal cultural law (where it has survived in the interstices and remote places beyond whitefellas reach), and it is this system that patrols are based on.  Each remote community is different, requiring a different approach to support and configuration of patrols.  The flexibility, imagination and knowledge that would underpin a fruitful approach to the set up and ongoing management of patrols is not there in government or in the new Shires.  There is downright hostility from the new bureaucrats to anyone who does have some knowledge or experience in this area, as they do not want to have to take any previous experience, no matter how relevant, into account in setting up their new fiefdoms.  I have spent more than twenty years working in remote communities in the NT and am watching the baby being thrown out with the bathwater (again!) with horror.  It&#8217;s back to assimilation now, - what&#8217;s next?  Another giant leap backward to mission days??</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfnephew</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7175</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfnephew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F Holder should possibly keep his miserable thoughts to himself. He is obviously a fine big dick specimen who doesn&#039;t think he get s the attention he deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F Holder should possibly keep his miserable thoughts to himself. He is obviously a fine big dick specimen who doesn&#8217;t think he get s the attention he deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7176</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, the correct usage is &#039;prescribed&#039;, and that&#039;s what we&#039;ve used throughout the article. I&#039;m a bit confused as to your point? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That aside, I couldn&#039;t agree more with the main thrust of your argument - the intervention is ham-fisted and was launched for very cynical reasons. But if you amend some of the human rights breaching provisions within it, you have a reasonable government initiative aimed at improving the lives of desperately disadvantaged Aboriginal people (and point made in another piece I wrote for today&#039;s edition of Crikey).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, the correct usage is &#8216;prescribed&#8217;, and that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve used throughout the article. I&#8217;m a bit confused as to your point? </p>
<p>That aside, I couldn&#8217;t agree more with the main thrust of your argument - the intervention is ham-fisted and was launched for very cynical reasons. But if you amend some of the human rights breaching provisions within it, you have a reasonable government initiative aimed at improving the lives of desperately disadvantaged Aboriginal people (and point made in another piece I wrote for today&#8217;s edition of Crikey).</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7177</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it may seem pedantic, but there is an importance between proscribed and prescribed. Isn&#039;t this sort of error, if ever made, supposed to be picked up by a sub editor? I&#039;m about to renew my subsciption; instead of sending me &#039;Boned&#039; which will likely end up as a door stop, could you instead buy a dictionary to be used in house. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From pedantic to the bleeding obvious. This was a plan cooked up over 48 hours, as Crikey has identified. It is flawed and far from perfect. That does not mean it should be abandoned, but rather strengthened. I&#039;m perfectly willing to give plenty of benefit of the doubt to our pollies; any good work in remote communities will take years to show genuine change. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I will remain hopeful that our elected representatives can do the job they promised; and certain that Crikey will be keeping a very close eye on their actions, as well as the reportage of all other media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it may seem pedantic, but there is an importance between proscribed and prescribed. Isn&#8217;t this sort of error, if ever made, supposed to be picked up by a sub editor? I&#8217;m about to renew my subsciption; instead of sending me &#8216;Boned&#8217; which will likely end up as a door stop, could you instead buy a dictionary to be used in house. </p>
<p>From pedantic to the bleeding obvious. This was a plan cooked up over 48 hours, as Crikey has identified. It is flawed and far from perfect. That does not mean it should be abandoned, but rather strengthened. I&#8217;m perfectly willing to give plenty of benefit of the doubt to our pollies; any good work in remote communities will take years to show genuine change. </p>
<p>So I will remain hopeful that our elected representatives can do the job they promised; and certain that Crikey will be keeping a very close eye on their actions, as well as the reportage of all other media.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Please DO NOT leave us Mr. Hodder! Your nation NEEDS you! The Indigenous people NEED you!....... &lt;br /&gt;The PHUCKING children need you......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LIKE A HOLE IN THE HEAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Please DO NOT leave us Mr. Hodder! Your nation NEEDS you! The Indigenous people NEED you!&#8230;&#8230;. <br />The PHUCKING children need you&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>LIKE A HOLE IN THE HEAD!</p>
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		<title>By: don scott</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7179</link>
		<dc:creator>don scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To F Holder .... well said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To F Holder &#8230;. well said</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK                                        </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK                                        </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUMMARY of Mr.( well it&#039;s not female is it?) Holder&#039;s &#039;COMMENT&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reinstate ATSIC and let us run our own affairs! You right wing culturally insensitive NAZIS!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You whitefellas (especially in the mainstream media) are culturally insensitive and don&#039;t understand the needs of the indigeous like us at ATSIC. How dare you think of our living, breathing children when its your fault they&#039;ve been abused (and its not that bad anyhow.....probably good for&#039;em...... In fact come to think of it its the federal governments fault) ESPECIALLY when an evil weasel named Howard is threatening our elite jobs? oops!.... sorry I meant our culture?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My message to Mr. F Hodder: NEVER SURRENDER! DO NOT ALLOW THE WELLBEING OF YOUR PEOPLE TO GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR HATRED OF HOWARD!  Despite the fact  he has been voted out.....HE IS THE ENEMY!!!!!       PHUCK THE KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUMMARY of Mr.( well it&#8217;s not female is it?) Holder&#8217;s &#8216;COMMENT&#8217;:</p>
<p>Reinstate ATSIC and let us run our own affairs! You right wing culturally insensitive NAZIS!</p>
<p>You whitefellas (especially in the mainstream media) are culturally insensitive and don&#8217;t understand the needs of the indigeous like us at ATSIC. How dare you think of our living, breathing children when its your fault they&#8217;ve been abused (and its not that bad anyhow&#8230;..probably good for&#8217;em&#8230;&#8230; In fact come to think of it its the federal governments fault) ESPECIALLY when an evil weasel named Howard is threatening our elite jobs? oops!&#8230;. sorry I meant our culture?</p>
<p>My message to Mr. F Hodder: NEVER SURRENDER! DO NOT ALLOW THE WELLBEING OF YOUR PEOPLE TO GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR HATRED OF HOWARD!  Despite the fact  he has been voted out&#8230;..HE IS THE ENEMY!!!!!       PHUCK THE KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: F Holder</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/20/howards-nt-intervention-promises-a-progress-report/#comment-7181</link>
		<dc:creator>F Holder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet I&#039;d wish you&#039;d change your mind if I asked you one more time.  These words came from the man in black, Johnny Cash, which would be wasted on the phucknukle little dicked twisted dwarf that was in charge of things in the land of the long red neck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the week before the announcement the Aboriginal community I work for got visited by FaCSIA staff, three of them informed us that they had recently been employed as &#039;solution brokers&#039;.  They were there in a supporting role to the bells and whistles all dancing Hitler&#039;s Henchmen show band telling us that your funding is cut - how Orwellian is that!  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;None of the journalists who contacted the organisation I work for, or who I contacted and tried to provide a back ground briefing, had read the report from the Inquiry into child abuse in the NT.  What&#039;s more they didn&#039;t care, it was an easy grab to run with the idiocy and lies that gushed out of the various Governments and oppositions PR machines - just like tossing out chips for the media pack to pounce on like a flock of seagulls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A journalist from the Advertiser rang and wanted my employer to put her into contact with someone from the community who &#039;understood the issues in a personal sense&#039; because she was doing a story in the Sunday Mail.  She was asked if she wanted a personal response to Howard&#039;s invasion of the NT, or if she wanted a personal response from someone who had been abused as a child, she tried to dodge around the answer but in the end clarified that it was the latter.  How&#039;s that! she wanted the organisation I worked for to put her into contact with an abused person to give her her easy feed for the week, she wanted the organisation to commit a profound breach of confidentiality and trust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Howard et al of course it was only a cheap wedge to chock open the doors into the next election, for Brough he was riding Howard&#039;s push to enhance his chances in the forthcoming Liberal Party leadership stakes as well.  It was just unadorned, naked political ambition, and Rudd just tried to de-wedge the wedge by saying “me too” in the same naked, unadorned exposé of naked political ambition that is only outmatched by his naked political cowardice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was all so pornographic.  The pollies were busy exploiting the already exploited and abused children to try and get elected so they could have another go at phucking over the Indigenies when they got back into Government, and the journalists were exploiting the now already doubly exploited and abused children for the base reason of its easy, a story with legs that required no effort, no creative writing - just sound grabs.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what the Report says about paedophiles: &lt;br /&gt;“In reality, despite the vast majority of typological studies conducted with samples of offenders who are convicted, hospitalised, or receiving psychotherapy, there is no paedophile profile: The only common denominators appear to be an offender’s lack of sensitivity to the child’s wishes and needs, along with a willingness to exploit the child for the abuser’s own gratification, profit, or selfish purposes.” (Wurtele and Miller-Perrin (1993:20).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Collectively the bastards behind the &#039;invasion&#039; were (and some remain) the largest pornography production team in history since ??  Pol Pot?, Bosnia?, Rwanda?, Hitler?.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here is what we should see: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Geraldine Doogue salaciously interviewing Johnny boy who&#039;s saying &#039;we&#039;ll ban pornography&#039; and ‘compulsory medical assessments for all NT Indigenous children under 16&#039; and he&#039;s drooling and being butt phucked by Mal in a jockey suit complete with whip going hard in the home straight shouting &#039;go you good thing go!&#039;, while in the background in a fluffy soft focus scene Fran Kelly as Dorothy from the land of Oz, Claire Martin as madam lash, Kevin Rudd in his Tintin outfit and Tony Abbott in a barbed wire joker suit frolic in a pink bubble bath and bash each other about the head with wet spaghetti filled balloons - and all the of them are in the cross hairs of a smart metal thing that homes in from on high and blots them out on the vinegar stroke; all in slow, slow motion and across the screen resolves into focus these words from the twisted dwarf  &#039;Why? because little children are sacred&#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Poor buggers in the NT and elsewhere, everybody wants to phuck &#039;em over.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So on that happy note I&#039;ll leave you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet I&#8217;d wish you&#8217;d change your mind if I asked you one more time.  These words came from the man in black, Johnny Cash, which would be wasted on the phucknukle little dicked twisted dwarf that was in charge of things in the land of the long red neck.</p>
<p>In the week before the announcement the Aboriginal community I work for got visited by FaCSIA staff, three of them informed us that they had recently been employed as &#8216;solution brokers&#8217;.  They were there in a supporting role to the bells and whistles all dancing Hitler&#8217;s Henchmen show band telling us that your funding is cut - how Orwellian is that!  </p>
<p>None of the journalists who contacted the organisation I work for, or who I contacted and tried to provide a back ground briefing, had read the report from the Inquiry into child abuse in the NT.  What&#8217;s more they didn&#8217;t care, it was an easy grab to run with the idiocy and lies that gushed out of the various Governments and oppositions PR machines - just like tossing out chips for the media pack to pounce on like a flock of seagulls.</p>
<p>A journalist from the Advertiser rang and wanted my employer to put her into contact with someone from the community who &#8216;understood the issues in a personal sense&#8217; because she was doing a story in the Sunday Mail.  She was asked if she wanted a personal response to Howard&#8217;s invasion of the NT, or if she wanted a personal response from someone who had been abused as a child, she tried to dodge around the answer but in the end clarified that it was the latter.  How&#8217;s that! she wanted the organisation I worked for to put her into contact with an abused person to give her her easy feed for the week, she wanted the organisation to commit a profound breach of confidentiality and trust.</p>
<p>For Howard et al of course it was only a cheap wedge to chock open the doors into the next election, for Brough he was riding Howard&#8217;s push to enhance his chances in the forthcoming Liberal Party leadership stakes as well.  It was just unadorned, naked political ambition, and Rudd just tried to de-wedge the wedge by saying “me too” in the same naked, unadorned exposé of naked political ambition that is only outmatched by his naked political cowardice.</p>
<p>It was all so pornographic.  The pollies were busy exploiting the already exploited and abused children to try and get elected so they could have another go at phucking over the Indigenies when they got back into Government, and the journalists were exploiting the now already doubly exploited and abused children for the base reason of its easy, a story with legs that required no effort, no creative writing - just sound grabs.  </p>
<p>This is what the Report says about paedophiles: <br />“In reality, despite the vast majority of typological studies conducted with samples of offenders who are convicted, hospitalised, or receiving psychotherapy, there is no paedophile profile: The only common denominators appear to be an offender’s lack of sensitivity to the child’s wishes and needs, along with a willingness to exploit the child for the abuser’s own gratification, profit, or selfish purposes.” (Wurtele and Miller-Perrin (1993:20).</p>
<p>Collectively the bastards behind the &#8216;invasion&#8217; were (and some remain) the largest pornography production team in history since ??  Pol Pot?, Bosnia?, Rwanda?, Hitler?.</p>
<p>So here is what we should see: </p>
<p>Geraldine Doogue salaciously interviewing Johnny boy who&#8217;s saying &#8216;we&#8217;ll ban pornography&#8217; and ‘compulsory medical assessments for all NT Indigenous children under 16&#8217; and he&#8217;s drooling and being butt phucked by Mal in a jockey suit complete with whip going hard in the home straight shouting &#8216;go you good thing go!&#8217;, while in the background in a fluffy soft focus scene Fran Kelly as Dorothy from the land of Oz, Claire Martin as madam lash, Kevin Rudd in his Tintin outfit and Tony Abbott in a barbed wire joker suit frolic in a pink bubble bath and bash each other about the head with wet spaghetti filled balloons - and all the of them are in the cross hairs of a smart metal thing that homes in from on high and blots them out on the vinegar stroke; all in slow, slow motion and across the screen resolves into focus these words from the twisted dwarf  &#8216;Why? because little children are sacred&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Poor buggers in the NT and elsewhere, everybody wants to phuck &#8216;em over.   </p>
<p>So on that happy note I&#8217;ll leave you.</p>
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