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	<title>Comments on: WA gas worker: Fark, we ran for our lives</title>
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		<title>By: JamesK                                        </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20524</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK                                        </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connor, it&#039;s occasionally as entertaining but not quite in the same way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connor, it&#8217;s occasionally as entertaining but not quite in the same way</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas #2</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20525</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas #2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Maybenot that&#039;s how its done. The truth about some deadly reality is too complex to understand but misleading pseudo-scientific rubbish can sound so logical and right it is sold as best practice. Not all. Just sometimes. Thereby the worry. Like if one car in 10,000 got licensed regardless of No brakes, No steering wheel, Hey, cars we all understand.  I am talking about UN-recognized bad practices. When we get rid of careless knowingly committed bad practice we should move on to the HARD stuff, more dangerous unrecognized</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Maybenot that&#8217;s how its done. The truth about some deadly reality is too complex to understand but misleading pseudo-scientific rubbish can sound so logical and right it is sold as best practice. Not all. Just sometimes. Thereby the worry. Like if one car in 10,000 got licensed regardless of No brakes, No steering wheel, Hey, cars we all understand.  I am talking about UN-recognized bad practices. When we get rid of careless knowingly committed bad practice we should move on to the HARD stuff, more dangerous unrecognized</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20526</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Harvey, do you have a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Harvey, do you have a point?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20527</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Harvey M Tarvydas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in an eclectic collection of science based pursuits, medicine, microbiology, chemistry and engineering. Various Australian Standards cross-relate as science is cross pollinated amongst my endeavours in these areas and I see the most worrying science defying contradictions meandering unrecognised like terrorists in disguise around the playing fields which enjoy a regular killing cull of human subjects quietly explained away with some silly would be ‘science’. Don&#039;t be alarmed that human&#039;s (even clever ones) do stupid things and some of them become enshrined as &#039;best practice&#039;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in an eclectic collection of science based pursuits, medicine, microbiology, chemistry and engineering. Various Australian Standards cross-relate as science is cross pollinated amongst my endeavours in these areas and I see the most worrying science defying contradictions meandering unrecognised like terrorists in disguise around the playing fields which enjoy a regular killing cull of human subjects quietly explained away with some silly would be ‘science’. Don&#8217;t be alarmed that human&#8217;s (even clever ones) do stupid things and some of them become enshrined as &#8216;best practice&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20528</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll get the message one day.   The oil, coal and gas suits rule.   The corporation overrides everything.    It&#039;s there for the shareholders, not the people of WA.   Bring on the litigation and sort it out. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll get the message one day.   The oil, coal and gas suits rule.   The corporation overrides everything.    It&#8217;s there for the shareholders, not the people of WA.   Bring on the litigation and sort it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor Moran</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20529</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to understand a Tarvydas comment is sometimes like trying to find sense in one of Terry Gilliam&#039;s &quot;stream of consciousness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to understand a Tarvydas comment is sometimes like trying to find sense in one of Terry Gilliam&#8217;s &#8220;stream of consciousness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: maybenot</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20530</link>
		<dc:creator>maybenot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: don scott</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20531</link>
		<dc:creator>don scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Atlas shrugged, for the meek - read weak, dull, ignorant, superstitious, opportunistic and lazy - shall inherit the earth. The meek love bureaucracy, for as a system of organisation it mirrors that of religion, the single greatest terrorist organisation ever. And if ever a working model existed for reasoned men to see clearly the evil that bureaucracy is, look no further than the soviet socialist bureaucracy of australia and the fact that even in the midst of unprecedented economic opportunities this relatively small but massively governed bureaucratic island nation can&#039;t even ensure the most basic of its most important means of production. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Atlas shrugged, for the meek - read weak, dull, ignorant, superstitious, opportunistic and lazy - shall inherit the earth. The meek love bureaucracy, for as a system of organisation it mirrors that of religion, the single greatest terrorist organisation ever. And if ever a working model existed for reasoned men to see clearly the evil that bureaucracy is, look no further than the soviet socialist bureaucracy of australia and the fact that even in the midst of unprecedented economic opportunities this relatively small but massively governed bureaucratic island nation can&#8217;t even ensure the most basic of its most important means of production.</p>
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		<title>By: RJG</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/19/wa-gas-worker-fark-we-ran-for-our-lives/#comment-20532</link>
		<dc:creator>RJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see the Director of Energy Safety at WA is on the job.  Who audited the company&#039;s safety plans and plant integrity test results?  Have they resigned yet?  Has anybody reported the incident to the Director of Energy Safety or did he/she read about it in the papers?  By the way the way pipe stress is a simple function of the pressure in the pipe, the pipe diameter and the pipe thickness.  The cost of an ultrasonic thickness tester is about $500 and is usable by virtually anyone, with the exception of lawyers who would be worried about the liability and accountants who would see the cost as a burden on company profits. Perhaps we could all chip in and buy one for them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see the Director of Energy Safety at WA is on the job.  Who audited the company&#8217;s safety plans and plant integrity test results?  Have they resigned yet?  Has anybody reported the incident to the Director of Energy Safety or did he/she read about it in the papers?  By the way the way pipe stress is a simple function of the pressure in the pipe, the pipe diameter and the pipe thickness.  The cost of an ultrasonic thickness tester is about $500 and is usable by virtually anyone, with the exception of lawyers who would be worried about the liability and accountants who would see the cost as a burden on company profits. Perhaps we could all chip in and buy one for them.</p>
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