Comments on: Car subsidy shows Rudd’s true colours http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:49:03 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: The Kid From Bondi http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7545 The Kid From Bondi Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7545 The Kid From Bondi<br />Tuesday, 10 June 2008 2:12:41 PM REPOST<br /><br />Correct me if I am wrong with the maths ...$35 million over 10,000 cars equates to $3.500 a car. Not a bad pick up as an upfront and extra gross margin for Toyota - as if they were not already in the process of making a Camry Hybrid anyway. <br /><br />And is it true that The Slurp has announced that now that he has bought OPEC to heel, disarmed the World, healed the sick and raised the dead, he will address domestic economic issues and provide a workable solution for something...anything? PS if the price of the Prius (and KEV the Prius is more expensive than a Camry, just because it is a Hybrid) is 35% more, what price will the new Camry be? And by increasing the price of the new Camry, will the price of the Prius increase as well? I am not interested enough to do the fuel consumption differential between the Camry and the Prius, maybe someone else is? I did call Toyota customer service and they confirmed that the Camry and the Prius have the same Hybrid engine - in the US and are built on the same platform. Nice one Kev. Toyota $35 mill Darfur $5 mill and five advisers! Oh I get it, the Sudanese can’t vote here or make a financial contribution to The Slurp. Has anyone else noticed that the more ridiculous announcements that he pulls The Slurp's burns get longer with each new grand statement. At this rate he will be treading on his 'burns by month's end. <br /> The Kid From Bondi
Tuesday, 10 June 2008 2:12:41 PM REPOST

Correct me if I am wrong with the maths …$35 million over 10,000 cars equates to $3.500 a car. Not a bad pick up as an upfront and extra gross margin for Toyota - as if they were not already in the process of making a Camry Hybrid anyway.

And is it true that The Slurp has announced that now that he has bought OPEC to heel, disarmed the World, healed the sick and raised the dead, he will address domestic economic issues and provide a workable solution for something…anything? PS if the price of the Prius (and KEV the Prius is more expensive than a Camry, just because it is a Hybrid) is 35% more, what price will the new Camry be? And by increasing the price of the new Camry, will the price of the Prius increase as well? I am not interested enough to do the fuel consumption differential between the Camry and the Prius, maybe someone else is? I did call Toyota customer service and they confirmed that the Camry and the Prius have the same Hybrid engine - in the US and are built on the same platform. Nice one Kev. Toyota $35 mill Darfur $5 mill and five advisers! Oh I get it, the Sudanese can’t vote here or make a financial contribution to The Slurp. Has anyone else noticed that the more ridiculous announcements that he pulls The Slurp’s burns get longer with each new grand statement. At this rate he will be treading on his ‘burns by month’s end.

]]> By: Lynda Hopgood http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7546 Lynda Hopgood Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7546 With the assistance of the CSIRO, Holden produced the magnificent prototype ECOmmodore 8 YEARS AGO. If someone had been prodding them with a stick for the past five years at least then we might have already had an Australian-built hybrid car on the market. Unfortunately the Government wasted their investment (and intellectual property rights, it seems) and now the US branch of GM has nabbed the idea. Such a shame. With the assistance of the CSIRO, Holden produced the magnificent prototype ECOmmodore 8 YEARS AGO. If someone had been prodding them with a stick for the past five years at least then we might have already had an Australian-built hybrid car on the market. Unfortunately the Government wasted their investment (and intellectual property rights, it seems) and now the US branch of GM has nabbed the idea. Such a shame.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7547 Andrew Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7547 @Kez<br /><br />ABC Radio reported yesterday (and I believe the Age and Australian also wrote) that the Vic Govt would have at least matched the sum that Rudd's government kicked in.<br /><br />Makes for a nice $70m windfall on an already profitable project to drop hybrid drivetrains into Camrys and charge us $50,000+ . <br /><br />The project is a dog, total greenwash. @Kez

ABC Radio reported yesterday (and I believe the Age and Australian also wrote) that the Vic Govt would have at least matched the sum that Rudd’s government kicked in.

Makes for a nice $70m windfall on an already profitable project to drop hybrid drivetrains into Camrys and charge us $50,000+ .

The project is a dog, total greenwash.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren#2 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7548 Venise Alstergren#2 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7548 Evan B: If it's all about standard of living, why does it have to be subsidized? Or is it that we are importing all those skilled workers to build cars whose concept is already outmoded. Or , do we come out with outmoded vehicles, in order to placate the workers who have come out here and are wondering what to do with themselves; when they were dying to get an entré to come here in the first place?<br />1. Why do we need to build outmoded vehicles? 2. We don't need to bring in skilled workers. 3. WE DO NEED to retain what precious little land there is left in our environmentally fragile state. 4. We don't need to have any more rural land to be flattened by wall-to-wall concrete, because our new arrivals want instant gratification. 5.WE DO NEED to train workers to produce things which don't end up as so many rust buckets . 6.WHY COULDN'T THE $35 MILLION HAVE GONE TO FUND SUCH A SCHEME?<br />My partner is a mechanic; he tells me the people entering trade schools are disinterested, lazy and scarcely literate. Apparently the teachers are even worse. <br />We do Evan B: If it’s all about standard of living, why does it have to be subsidized? Or is it that we are importing all those skilled workers to build cars whose concept is already outmoded. Or , do we come out with outmoded vehicles, in order to placate the workers who have come out here and are wondering what to do with themselves; when they were dying to get an entré to come here in the first place?
1. Why do we need to build outmoded vehicles? 2. We don’t need to bring in skilled workers. 3. WE DO NEED to retain what precious little land there is left in our environmentally fragile state. 4. We don’t need to have any more rural land to be flattened by wall-to-wall concrete, because our new arrivals want instant gratification. 5.WE DO NEED to train workers to produce things which don’t end up as so many rust buckets . 6.WHY COULDN’T THE $35 MILLION HAVE GONE TO FUND SUCH A SCHEME?
My partner is a mechanic; he tells me the people entering trade schools are disinterested, lazy and scarcely literate. Apparently the teachers are even worse.
We do

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7549 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7549 Its a demoralising read but thanks for the facts. Australian taxpayers are subsidising 50,000 jobs to the tune of $23,500 pa and that's just commonwealth funds and not including the further $500,000 green fund and not including state government support! I'm sure John Button is turning in his grave. It will open the Pandora's box of goverment subsidised inefficiency and waste. Its a demoralising read but thanks for the facts. Australian taxpayers are subsidising 50,000 jobs to the tune of $23,500 pa and that’s just commonwealth funds and not including the further $500,000 green fund and not including state government support! I’m sure John Button is turning in his grave. It will open the Pandora’s box of goverment subsidised inefficiency and waste.

]]> By: Venise Alstegren http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7550 Venise Alstegren Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7550 Could someone please explain to me-in words of one syllable-why we would pay the Toyota rapist to rape us. Whilst our mining wealth, especially the compressed gas, is given away for 3cents a litre. In short, why do we pay to be raped, when we're giving it away for nothing, in the first place? Could someone please explain to me-in words of one syllable-why we would pay the Toyota rapist to rape us. Whilst our mining wealth, especially the compressed gas, is given away for 3cents a litre. In short, why do we pay to be raped, when we’re giving it away for nothing, in the first place?

]]> By: Tony Papafilis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/11/car-subsidy-shows-rudds-true-colours/#comment-7551 Tony Papafilis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-7551 I wonder if Toyota also got a kickback form the Thailand government as it announced that it will build these cars in Australia and Thailand? I wonder if Toyota also got a kickback form the Thailand government as it announced that it will build these cars in Australia and Thailand?

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