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	<title>Comments on: Public servants sometimes work overtime. So?</title>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/05/public-servants-sometimes-work-overtime-so/#comment-24242</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help thinking that the compaints from public service about working too hard are actually being generated to further boost the governments public opinion. A straw poll I conducted in my pub didn&#039;t find anyone that felt sorry for public servants being worked hard. If anything most people seemed to be pleased that the government was actually making them do something. Whether it is fair or not, most people tend to see public servants as having a fairly easy go of it. So a government taking a whip to them is bound to largely be seen as a positive. You can see my poll results at www.drunkensurveys.com.au</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help thinking that the compaints from public service about working too hard are actually being generated to further boost the governments public opinion. A straw poll I conducted in my pub didn&#8217;t find anyone that felt sorry for public servants being worked hard. If anything most people seemed to be pleased that the government was actually making them do something. Whether it is fair or not, most people tend to see public servants as having a fairly easy go of it. So a government taking a whip to them is bound to largely be seen as a positive. You can see my poll results at <a href="http://www.drunkensurveys.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.drunkensurveys.com.au</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/05/public-servants-sometimes-work-overtime-so/#comment-24243</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem for the public servants in Canberra is that there is a big agenda and they are willingly taking advantage of the opportunities that arise because they have management or policy development skills - they may but these are not necessarily of much help if they don&#039;t actually have any knowledge. So some really bad decisions are being made after a lot of agonising and briefs which are read but not understood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hang over from the Howard years is that power has been very cetralised and departments are being run in exactly the same way as they were. Cosseted in Canberra makes the decision making process easy but then a great deal of energy has to be expended because the central bureaucracy doesn&#039;t trust the advice of those in the states who are at a far lowlier level and therefore are not in a position to be listened to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The running around in circles takes a lot of time but an approach which acknowledges that federal public servants working in the states can often provide answers and can be trusted and will save everyone work in the long run is not a feature of the current federal sphere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However when you have a group of ambitious but ill informed people in charge and who will churn through before their mistakes are discovered you have a situation requiring long hours and ensure that the people who create the problems are long gone by the time the clean up team is required.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whilst Howard created the problem it is unlikely to change under a control freak dictate. the problem with being risk averse is that it causes delays which in the end create more matters to be controlled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Expect to hear more about the pressures of the public service. Like Bernad thought it is hard to be too sympathetic as nobody at the top does anything to ensure that key positions are filled long enough to build expertise and competence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for the public servants in Canberra is that there is a big agenda and they are willingly taking advantage of the opportunities that arise because they have management or policy development skills - they may but these are not necessarily of much help if they don&#8217;t actually have any knowledge. So some really bad decisions are being made after a lot of agonising and briefs which are read but not understood.</p>
<p>The hang over from the Howard years is that power has been very cetralised and departments are being run in exactly the same way as they were. Cosseted in Canberra makes the decision making process easy but then a great deal of energy has to be expended because the central bureaucracy doesn&#8217;t trust the advice of those in the states who are at a far lowlier level and therefore are not in a position to be listened to.</p>
<p>The running around in circles takes a lot of time but an approach which acknowledges that federal public servants working in the states can often provide answers and can be trusted and will save everyone work in the long run is not a feature of the current federal sphere.</p>
<p>However when you have a group of ambitious but ill informed people in charge and who will churn through before their mistakes are discovered you have a situation requiring long hours and ensure that the people who create the problems are long gone by the time the clean up team is required.</p>
<p>Whilst Howard created the problem it is unlikely to change under a control freak dictate. the problem with being risk averse is that it causes delays which in the end create more matters to be controlled.</p>
<p>Expect to hear more about the pressures of the public service. Like Bernad thought it is hard to be too sympathetic as nobody at the top does anything to ensure that key positions are filled long enough to build expertise and competence.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/05/public-servants-sometimes-work-overtime-so/#comment-24244</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn good article Bernard, excellent insight from an insiders point of view. As for that voice on Abetz, it could very easily be put on a tape loop and played for hours as a torture device, would drive anyone bonkers well within 24 hours. Wow with Nelson glaring and Abetz voice combined  arghhhh, what a formidable pair :-)  Nelson (not the oppo leader)is on to it in his contribution, bet majority of the public couldnt give a toss how many hours the Public Servants put in. As Bernard points out it all tends to balance itself out. Incidently I notice in the Australian, Jack the Insider&#039;s column suggests Mr Rudd may have suffered a mild heart attack recently, but its been blamed on food poisoning.  Fact or fancy? Note Crikey hasn&#039;t run with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn good article Bernard, excellent insight from an insiders point of view. As for that voice on Abetz, it could very easily be put on a tape loop and played for hours as a torture device, would drive anyone bonkers well within 24 hours. Wow with Nelson glaring and Abetz voice combined  arghhhh, what a formidable pair <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Nelson (not the oppo leader)is on to it in his contribution, bet majority of the public couldnt give a toss how many hours the Public Servants put in. As Bernard points out it all tends to balance itself out. Incidently I notice in the Australian, Jack the Insider&#8217;s column suggests Mr Rudd may have suffered a mild heart attack recently, but its been blamed on food poisoning.  Fact or fancy? Note Crikey hasn&#8217;t run with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Scruby</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/06/05/public-servants-sometimes-work-overtime-so/#comment-24245</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Scruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner and I were listening to AM this morning (yes I know,when else) and I suggested she pay particular attention when I heard that Eric Abetz was going to be featured. I said to her that she has got to hear this guy speak...on came the grab and we both disintegrated into laughter...where do they find them???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner and I were listening to AM this morning (yes I know,when else) and I suggested she pay particular attention when I heard that Eric Abetz was going to be featured. I said to her that she has got to hear this guy speak&#8230;on came the grab and we both disintegrated into laughter&#8230;where do they find them???</p>
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