Comments on: Attack of the luvvies fails to hit its target http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:58:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/#comment-12379 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-12379 As for celebrity this highly instructive history of propaganda in USA politics on YouTube in 6 parts at part 3 re founder of PR industry Edward Bernays nephew of Freud. At http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSOmSnomnY&feature=related Seems associating with celebrities has been a manipulative tactic for over 90 years now in Big Politics. In 1924 President Coolidge was seen as cold and unpopular. Bernays set up a celebrity gathering. Presto. As for celebrity this highly instructive history of propaganda in USA politics on YouTube in 6 parts at part 3 re founder of PR industry Edward Bernays nephew of Freud. At http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSOmSnomnY&feature=related
Seems associating with celebrities has been a manipulative tactic for over 90 years now in Big Politics. In 1924 President Coolidge was seen as cold and unpopular. Bernays set up a celebrity gathering. Presto.

]]> By: justin larkin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/#comment-12380 justin larkin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-12380 "The English language becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts." George Orwell. Rolled gold" has been recently misused by politicians (Keating and Howard both I think) and its lazy to repeat their bad habits. Shouldn't that be 'solid gold' indicating the certainty is unalloyed as opposed cheap junk jewellry sold to rubes that has real gold rolled around a baser metal. A small point maybe but Crikey makes a lot of our need to be more critical and less accepting of spin. quantum leap used as a huge leap rather than the smallest possible sh*ts me too. “The English language becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell.

Rolled gold” has been recently misused by politicians (Keating and Howard both I think) and its lazy to repeat their bad habits. Shouldn’t that be ‘solid gold’ indicating the certainty is unalloyed as opposed cheap junk jewellry sold to rubes that has real gold rolled around a baser metal. A small point maybe but Crikey makes a lot of our need to be more critical and less accepting of spin. quantum leap used as a huge leap rather than the smallest possible sh*ts me too.

]]> By: Jim http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/#comment-12381 Jim Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-12381 Garbage, Bernard; dressed up in cool, world-wise cynical journo clothes, but garbage all the same. All Rudd had to do was suggest that although Henson is a well-known and respected artist, you can't have one rule on what images are acceptable for the arts community, and another for the rest. He could have gone on from there to complain about sexualization of children in the media and advertising (far more likely a source of gratification for the pervert community), and come out looking reasonable and balanced. The arts crowd would still not have liked it, but it would at least have looked pragmatic, instead of vicious and divisive. All he achieved by attacking Henson head-on was to make himself look more like the bottom-feeding Howard. Maybe that's what he wants. Maybe it's what Bernard wants. It's certainly not what I want. Garbage, Bernard; dressed up in cool, world-wise cynical journo clothes, but garbage all the same. All Rudd had to do was suggest that although Henson is a well-known and respected artist, you can’t have one rule on what images are acceptable for the arts community, and another for the rest. He could have gone on from there to complain about sexualization of children in the media and advertising (far more likely a source of gratification for the pervert community), and come out looking reasonable and balanced. The arts crowd would still not have liked it, but it would at least have looked pragmatic, instead of vicious and divisive. All he achieved by attacking Henson head-on was to make himself look more like the bottom-feeding Howard. Maybe that’s what he wants. Maybe it’s what Bernard wants. It’s certainly not what I want.

]]> By: Connor Moran http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/#comment-12382 Connor Moran Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-12382 Bernard, there's a bigger problem with the letter, by my count there are ~65 other Creative stream attendees that didn't sign. On second thoughts maybe we should hope our PM isn't influenced by Rhys Muldoon or Claudia Karvan, but what about Professor David Throsby or John Polson? Couldn't get them to sign? Also "...Mr Hensons...work... diminished and corrupted..." I can hear the cash registers now. One suspects that was the motive all along. Has someone got one of those free publicity calculator thingos people like Max Markson always quote? Bernard, there’s a bigger problem with the letter, by my count there are ~65 other Creative stream attendees that didn’t sign. On second thoughts maybe we should hope our PM isn’t influenced by Rhys Muldoon or Claudia Karvan, but what about Professor David Throsby or John Polson? Couldn’t get them to sign? Also “…Mr Hensons…work… diminished and corrupted…” I can hear the cash registers now. One suspects that was the motive all along. Has someone got one of those free publicity calculator thingos people like Max Markson always quote?

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/28/attack-of-the-luvvies-fails-to-hit-its-target/#comment-12383 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-12383 As per my report Julie Gale piece above, on brute politics of Orkopoulos ALP sent down for 9+ years. There was always going to be a backlash against that result in the sentencing, and the arts have been, as they say in the classics, positioned by the right wring (!) Big Media pretty much to perfection to take the heat for that disgusting/criminal/revolting (!) abuse of power by Ork. The convergence of luvvies for the writers festival just made the timing even more inauspicious for them (auspicious for Devine/Telegraph), being somewhat Labor in tendencies. Rudd was getting ahead of the curve ball as soon as front page Telegraph hit the printing machine. The arts community do need some real politik spinners to help them out really. They could have declined Rudd's knee jerk "revolting" comment, offered to give him tuition on the history of art (must say I'm learning alot too in the debate) and reveal superior power insights by equally condemn ostensibly unconnected Orkopoulos criminality for what it is. If they wanted to really twist the knife they could have suggested Rudd would do better to just face up to the long history of an MP "rock spider" in his own party and get to work on how best to deal with that legacy, as per former ALP MP Paul OGrady, ex NSW admin cee call out on Stateline NSW last Friday against dodgy secret lives leading to abuse and lies. As per my report Julie Gale piece above, on brute politics of Orkopoulos ALP sent down for 9+ years. There was always going to be a backlash against that result in the sentencing, and the arts have been, as they say in the classics, positioned by the right wring (!) Big Media pretty much to perfection to take the heat for that disgusting/criminal/revolting (!) abuse of power by Ork. The convergence of luvvies for the writers festival just made the timing even more inauspicious for them (auspicious for Devine/Telegraph), being somewhat Labor in tendencies. Rudd was getting ahead of the curve ball as soon as front page Telegraph hit the printing machine. The arts community do need some real politik spinners to help them out really. They could have declined Rudd’s knee jerk “revolting” comment, offered to give him tuition on the history of art (must say I’m learning alot too in the debate) and reveal superior power insights by equally condemn ostensibly unconnected Orkopoulos criminality for what it is. If they wanted to really twist the knife they could have suggested Rudd would do better to just face up to the long history of an MP “rock spider” in his own party and get to work on how best to deal with that legacy, as per former ALP MP Paul OGrady, ex NSW admin cee call out on Stateline NSW last Friday against dodgy secret lives leading to abuse and lies.

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