Comments on: Mungo: Nelson joins the list of Budget losers http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/ now with extra source Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:05:56 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John James # 3 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22204 John James # 3 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22204 Murdering of the innocent is something to get obsessive about! Murdering of the innocent is something to get obsessive about!

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22205 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22205 Kate, you can pick an abortionist a mile away. They never use the language normally used when speaking about the unborn and giving birth. Pregnant women always talk about "my baby", abortionists talk about "the foetus', and having the baby becomes, to use Lucy's term, " spawning". Anything to dehumanise! Kate, you can pick an abortionist a mile away. They never use the language normally used when speaking about the unborn and giving birth. Pregnant women always talk about “my baby”, abortionists talk about “the foetus’, and having the baby becomes, to use Lucy’s term, ” spawning”. Anything to dehumanise!

]]> By: kate http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22206 kate Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22206 How on earth did you manage to make this about abortion, JJ??? How on earth did you manage to make this about abortion, JJ???

]]> By: Lucy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22207 Lucy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22207 My favourite part of the whole thing was reading the DT's coverage. Basically, they found a whole bunch of families on $150 000+ to cry poor, in detail, under the banner "FAMILIES LET DOWN BY RUDD" or somesuch. One of them had wanted her baby bonus to pay for a home birth, because god forbid she should do her spawning in a public hospital with all the plebs. Another was saying "it's not about the money, it's about the recognition that what I do is important". What's wrong with a World's Best Mum mug? And all the stories started with "Mark, 35, an advertising account director, and his wife Briony, a stay-at-home mum, make $220 000 between them, but say they don't feel rich", as if wealth redistribution should penalise only those who FEEL rich. In aggregate they formed, as someone somewhere once put it, a walking advertisement for a massive luxury goods tax. My favourite part of the whole thing was reading the DT’s coverage. Basically, they found a whole bunch of families on $150 000+ to cry poor, in detail, under the banner “FAMILIES LET DOWN BY RUDD” or somesuch. One of them had wanted her baby bonus to pay for a home birth, because god forbid she should do her spawning in a public hospital with all the plebs. Another was saying “it’s not about the money, it’s about the recognition that what I do is important”. What’s wrong with a World’s Best Mum mug? And all the stories started with “Mark, 35, an advertising account director, and his wife Briony, a stay-at-home mum, make $220 000 between them, but say they don’t feel rich”, as if wealth redistribution should penalise only those who FEEL rich. In aggregate they formed, as someone somewhere once put it, a walking advertisement for a massive luxury goods tax.

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22208 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22208 "John Howard did it when he was in trouble at the beginning of 2001, but wisely resisted pleas for an encore for the next seven years" There, there Mungo that nasty Mr. Howard is gone. No need to fret that he did something wisely.... He's gone! I promise!..........................................What d'ya mean you miss him????? Whilst I may not have put it quite those terms, John James is correct and that is unfortunate for ordinary Joe (or Lucy) Bloggs . “John Howard did it when he was in trouble at the beginning of 2001, but wisely resisted pleas for an encore for the next seven years” There, there Mungo that nasty Mr. Howard is gone. No need to fret that he did something wisely…. He’s gone! I promise!……………………………………What d’ya mean you miss him?????
Whilst I may not have put it quite those terms, John James is correct and that is unfortunate for ordinary Joe (or Lucy) Bloggs .

]]> By: Nick http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22209 Nick Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22209 Mungo, sorry but I have to agree with Peter Johns. The goal posts have moved significantly and largely silently. I have no idea how folks with kids, car, mortgage etc and $150k could possibly be defined as rich. If only it were true! Just to be helpful - my definition of rich is "significantly less out goings than incomings". Most families on $150k are just holding their own - in Sydney they may not even be doing that! Mungo, sorry but I have to agree with Peter Johns. The goal posts have moved significantly and largely silently. I have no idea how folks with kids, car, mortgage etc and $150k could possibly be defined as rich. If only it were true! Just to be helpful - my definition of rich is “significantly less out goings than incomings”. Most families on $150k are just holding their own - in Sydney they may not even be doing that!

]]> By: kate http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22210 kate Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22210 ... and you can pick an obsessive fundamentalist from a mile away too. They always manage to weasel their pet topic into any conversation, no matter how unrelated. … and you can pick an obsessive fundamentalist from a mile away too. They always manage to weasel their pet topic into any conversation, no matter how unrelated.

]]> By: Peter Johns http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22211 Peter Johns Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22211 Poor old Mungo seems to be strungling with his maths.... 'They are, however, among the very top earners in Australia, amassing more than 90% of their fellow Australians and considerably more than twice the average. In global terms, of course, they are towards the peak of the top one billionth.' Wouldn't the top 'one billionth' be,...er...the top 6 or so richest people in the world? even if you reduced it drastically to the 'top one thousanth' you're still only talking 6 million people - which, while undoubtedly including many Australians would hardly include a couple earning $150,000 Poor old Mungo seems to be strungling with his maths….

‘They are, however, among the very top earners in Australia, amassing more than 90% of their fellow Australians and considerably more than twice the average. In global terms, of course, they are towards the peak of the top one billionth.’

Wouldn’t the top ‘one billionth’ be,…er…the top 6 or so richest people in the world? even if you reduced it drastically to the ‘top one thousanth’ you’re still only talking 6 million people - which, while undoubtedly including many Australians would hardly include a couple earning $150,000

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/mungo-nelson-joins-the-list-of-budget-losers/#comment-22212 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-22212 "..God forbid she should do her spawning in the public hospital with all the plebs" Lucy, I dont know which editions of the DT you've been reading but you must have missed the ones describing "spawning " ( interesting term that only an apologist for abortion would use, never a mother actually expecting! ) that has ocurred in the toilets of major teaching hospitas here in Sydney 'cause there was no bed. So Swan's brilliant move to shift more people to the same hospital is an ominous sign of whats to come. With Roxon ans Swan working together with Iemma, get set for a wild ride. ”..God forbid she should do her spawning in the public hospital with all the plebs” Lucy, I dont know which editions of the DT you’ve been reading but you must have missed the ones describing “spawning ” ( interesting term that only an apologist for abortion would use, never a mother actually expecting! ) that has ocurred in the toilets of major teaching hospitas here in Sydney ‘cause there was no bed.
So Swan’s brilliant move to shift more people to the same hospital is an ominous sign of whats to come. With Roxon ans Swan working together with Iemma, get set for a wild ride.

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