Comments on: Fighting climate change — a job for Budget 09? http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/ now with extra source Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:36:07 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jonathan Moylan http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/#comment-17752 Jonathan Moylan Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-17752 Good to see that the Climate Institute now believes in short-term reductions, rather than relying on "clean" coal scenarios which won't be broadly available for at least a decade. Private money can go wherever it wants, but public money should be put as quickly as possible into clean renewable energy solutions which will be able to have an impact as soon as is needed (that is, yesterday). We need to remember that emissions from coal don't just come from combustion, but from all stages of production. And let's not forget the worst part of Tuesday's budget - $20 billion to build roads, massively expand our coal export ports, etc (but it's okay because broadband is part of the package as well). All eyes on Copenhagen 2009 - 560 days away and ticking... Good to see that the Climate Institute now believes in short-term reductions, rather than relying on “clean” coal scenarios which won’t be broadly available for at least a decade. Private money can go wherever it wants, but public money should be put as quickly as possible into clean renewable energy solutions which will be able to have an impact as soon as is needed (that is, yesterday). We need to remember that emissions from coal don’t just come from combustion, but from all stages of production.
And let’s not forget the worst part of Tuesday’s budget - $20 billion to build roads, massively expand our coal export ports, etc (but it’s okay because broadband is part of the package as well).

All eyes on Copenhagen 2009 - 560 days away and ticking…

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/#comment-17753 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-17753 Reading this article and the comments accompanying it makes me realise .... how ecologically ignorant and hopeless the situation really is. No honesty about the pandering to euphemistically titled 'clean coal'. That's a disgusting cynical omission given it's a $500M line item in the budget. So just like Carr's broken ELECTION promise to get the Eden chipmill out of natural forests by 2000, Connor here is sanitising his own ALP friendly interference on the real policy debate. Fine for the ALP loyalists and indeed Coalition nutjobs stuck in their 20C political economy denialism. Absolutely useless for those working on a 21C step change to civilisation survival. About time Connor you started declaring the seed funding from Bob Carr already, just like Get Up on MTP on 10 re Thorley MP. Indeed stop policy pimping, will you? It's pathetic. Always next year eh? We already know the ALP are full of spivs John. Get the hint. Reading this article and the comments accompanying it makes me realise …. how ecologically ignorant and hopeless the situation really is. No honesty about the pandering to euphemistically titled ‘clean coal’. That’s a disgusting cynical omission given it’s a $500M line item in the budget. So just like Carr’s broken ELECTION promise to get the Eden chipmill out of natural forests by 2000, Connor here is sanitising his own ALP friendly interference on the real policy debate. Fine for the ALP loyalists and indeed Coalition nutjobs stuck in their 20C political economy denialism. Absolutely useless for those working on a 21C step change to civilisation survival. About time Connor you started declaring the seed funding from Bob Carr already, just like Get Up on MTP on 10 re Thorley MP. Indeed stop policy pimping, will you? It’s pathetic. Always next year eh? We already know the ALP are full of spivs John. Get the hint.

]]> By: Keith Bradbury http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/#comment-17754 Keith Bradbury Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-17754 Some of your contributors are total whackos, this guy is in there with the best of them, it a real worry that some will listen to this jerk, talk about Heny Penny and Lucky Ducky Some of your contributors are total whackos, this guy is in there with the best of them, it a real worry that some will listen to this jerk, talk about Heny Penny and Lucky Ducky

]]> By: Robert Molyneux http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/#comment-17755 Robert Molyneux Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-17755 A problem with solar energy for domestic households is that the payback period is probably longer than the time spent in a given home, especially for young and mobile householders. That is, before you have got a benefit for a given installation, you will have moved house and have to do the thing all over again. There has to be a national campaign of getting all households fitted - which could be funded by government, and paid for by a suitable (monthy) rental / charge. Why not have a number of specific charges (like the Medicare fee, the Guns Buyback scheme, the national petrol surcharge devoted to roads... where people can see precisely what their tax dollars are paying for. A problem with solar energy for domestic households is that the payback period is probably longer than the time spent in a given home, especially for young and mobile householders. That is, before you have got a benefit for a given installation, you will have moved house and have to do the thing all over again. There has to be a national campaign of getting all households fitted - which could be funded by government, and paid for by a suitable (monthy) rental / charge. Why not have a number of specific charges (like the Medicare fee, the Guns Buyback scheme, the national petrol surcharge devoted to roads… where people can see precisely what their tax dollars are paying for.

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/19/fighting-climate-change-a-job-for-budget-09/#comment-17756 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-17756 Reading this article and the comment accompanying it makes me realise how hard we have to work to save Australia from the Greens, the more lunatic fringe of the Left, and thats saying something. Jonathon would stop all road buliding, shut down our coal industry, while John would push the price of fuel even higher and qoutes approvingly a European environment minister from a country relying substantially on increasing its nuclear energy option, something the climate alarmists reject. To top it all off, the greens would reduce Australians population to lesss than 10 million. Skills shotages? Who needs skills when you're living in a cave? Reading this article and the comment accompanying it makes me realise how hard we have to work to save Australia from the Greens, the more lunatic fringe of the Left, and thats saying something. Jonathon would stop all road buliding, shut down our coal industry, while John would push the price of fuel even higher and qoutes approvingly a European environment minister from a country relying substantially on increasing its nuclear energy option, something the climate alarmists reject. To top it all off, the greens would reduce Australians population to lesss than 10 million. Skills shotages? Who needs skills when you’re living in a cave?

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