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	<title>Comments on: The blog wars: New emails send Vic Libs running scared</title>
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		<title>By: JamesK </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17136</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are suffering denial, Dave Liberts. No question but Mark Latham was the media&#039;s great  hope until he self imploded. They had clearly championed him. They hated Howard then and you would be forgiven for thinking that he was still a political force the way that he is still decried. Enjoy the show!  Your man is in power.  Learn to enjoy it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are suffering denial, Dave Liberts. No question but Mark Latham was the media&#8217;s great  hope until he self imploded. They had clearly championed him. They hated Howard then and you would be forgiven for thinking that he was still a political force the way that he is still decried. Enjoy the show!  Your man is in power.  Learn to enjoy it!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17137</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you reckon the media keeps Labor honest? Dream on!!! Most of the media is nothing more than an extension of the ALP Comms machine. Remember, the media got is man in Canberra after failing to get Latham past Howard. Now we&#039;ve got a wooden bloke who delivers nothing but motherhood statements while talking about hiow fiscally conservative he and his party is, and then rolls out the old socialist agenda in a budget. Where were and the question Bernard? Haven&#039;t seen any hard questions being asked by you! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you reckon the media keeps Labor honest? Dream on!!! Most of the media is nothing more than an extension of the ALP Comms machine. Remember, the media got is man in Canberra after failing to get Latham past Howard. Now we&#8217;ve got a wooden bloke who delivers nothing but motherhood statements while talking about hiow fiscally conservative he and his party is, and then rolls out the old socialist agenda in a budget. Where were and the question Bernard? Haven&#8217;t seen any hard questions being asked by you!</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17138</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sure that one of the driving forces of this mass sepuku in a Party that always had the moral values of a non-neutered tom cat. (The refrain from the late Henry Bolte ran like this. &quot;No! I&#039;ve got enough Persian rugs. You&#039;ll have to do better than that&quot;.) would be Julian Sheezel. He who keeps a v.low profile indeed. Prior to the last Fed. election the voters in Higgins received an incredibly expensive, ultra-environmentally envelope which made people think it was from The Greens. If the Greens could have afforded such a luxury-I&#039;m talking $6-$10 dollars a throw.. In it was an even more expensive letter to the effect that the Greens  were urging people not to vote for the Labour Party. Having a nasty, suspicious mind I put on a v.strong pair of magnifiers which I use for photography. There was a tiny, tiny little note at the end saying; &quot;Authorized by Julian Sheezel, the Victorian Liberal Party, followed by an address in the CBD. At least they&#039;re running true to form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sure that one of the driving forces of this mass sepuku in a Party that always had the moral values of a non-neutered tom cat. (The refrain from the late Henry Bolte ran like this. &#8220;No! I&#8217;ve got enough Persian rugs. You&#8217;ll have to do better than that&#8221;.) would be Julian Sheezel. He who keeps a v.low profile indeed. Prior to the last Fed. election the voters in Higgins received an incredibly expensive, ultra-environmentally envelope which made people think it was from The Greens. If the Greens could have afforded such a luxury-I&#8217;m talking $6-$10 dollars a throw.. In it was an even more expensive letter to the effect that the Greens  were urging people not to vote for the Labour Party. Having a nasty, suspicious mind I put on a v.strong pair of magnifiers which I use for photography. There was a tiny, tiny little note at the end saying; &#8220;Authorized by Julian Sheezel, the Victorian Liberal Party, followed by an address in the CBD. At least they&#8217;re running true to form.</p>
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		<title>By: David Liberts</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17139</link>
		<dc:creator>David Liberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, I&#039;d personally be delighted by &#039;the old socialist agenda&#039;, but I can assure you it&#039;s nowhere to be seen from my lefty point of view. Your recollection of Latham is also fascinating, as I clearly recall the media taking delight in bashing him as he went down with pancreatitis (although this was assisted by Latham imploding in front of the cameras). From where I sit on the political spectrum, Rudd is a centrist with middle-of-the-road policies and Nelson is deeply confused about whether he continues in the Howard opportunist tradition or develops a new, genuinely liberal position. This article, about personality disputes overriding political common sense (not dissimilar to some of the issues the ALP faced in the &#039;90s) describes indefensible actions by those focussed purely on divvying up the spoils of defeat. Indefensible, yet here you are purporting to defend them (without even referring to them - probably a good tactic in the circumstances).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, I&#8217;d personally be delighted by &#8216;the old socialist agenda&#8217;, but I can assure you it&#8217;s nowhere to be seen from my lefty point of view. Your recollection of Latham is also fascinating, as I clearly recall the media taking delight in bashing him as he went down with pancreatitis (although this was assisted by Latham imploding in front of the cameras). From where I sit on the political spectrum, Rudd is a centrist with middle-of-the-road policies and Nelson is deeply confused about whether he continues in the Howard opportunist tradition or develops a new, genuinely liberal position. This article, about personality disputes overriding political common sense (not dissimilar to some of the issues the ALP faced in the &#8217;90s) describes indefensible actions by those focussed purely on divvying up the spoils of defeat. Indefensible, yet here you are purporting to defend them (without even referring to them - probably a good tactic in the circumstances).</p>
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		<title>By: JamesK                                        </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17140</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesK                                        </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Keane is quite correct but the possibilities are so delicious! It is breathtaking to see a once great political force commit harikari. There are presently no creditable political opposition across the country. There are only small sections of the media not still gloating at Rudd&#039;s success. The country relies on YOU, Bernard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Keane is quite correct but the possibilities are so delicious! It is breathtaking to see a once great political force commit harikari. There are presently no creditable political opposition across the country. There are only small sections of the media not still gloating at Rudd&#8217;s success. The country relies on YOU, Bernard!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17141</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks James, that was I about to say. The media backed him to the point where we had almost forgotten some of his past behaviour - it was only when their evangelic support of him became untenable that they jumped off. A leftie may be upset there is not more crap in this budget, but treat it for what it is. A very politically conservative budget designed at winning the next election... with just enough red ink to make The Age smile. Income equalisation is a disgusting concept propped up by Marks-lovers, and Means Testing isn&#039;t called mean for nothing. I work hard for what I&#039;ve got, and for that I get punished by our new Federal Government... and my wife gets treated like she is irrelevant because she is a non-entity. If I remember correctly, Rudd referred to stay at home mums as appendages to middle age men, if that&#039;s not condescending that I don’t know what is. And my main piont was, if it is the media&#039;s job to hold the government accountable they should all quit. Including Mr Keane. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks James, that was I about to say. The media backed him to the point where we had almost forgotten some of his past behaviour - it was only when their evangelic support of him became untenable that they jumped off. A leftie may be upset there is not more crap in this budget, but treat it for what it is. A very politically conservative budget designed at winning the next election&#8230; with just enough red ink to make The Age smile. Income equalisation is a disgusting concept propped up by Marks-lovers, and Means Testing isn&#8217;t called mean for nothing. I work hard for what I&#8217;ve got, and for that I get punished by our new Federal Government&#8230; and my wife gets treated like she is irrelevant because she is a non-entity. If I remember correctly, Rudd referred to stay at home mums as appendages to middle age men, if that&#8217;s not condescending that I don’t know what is. And my main piont was, if it is the media&#8217;s job to hold the government accountable they should all quit. Including Mr Keane.</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren#2</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/05/16/the-blog-wars-new-emails-send-vic-libs-running-scared/#comment-17142</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren#2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Party referred to is, of course, The Victorian branch of...pad um!!!!  Drum roll. The Liberal Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Party referred to is, of course, The Victorian branch of&#8230;pad um!!!!  Drum roll. The Liberal Party.</p>
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