Comments on: The torch waits quietly for its moment in the Canberra sun http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/ now with extra source Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:14:13 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dermot http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5460 dermot Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5460 fireworks at 6 roads blocked at 8 nearly ran over a Tibetan who walked out on to the road. and we paid money for this!!!! fireworks at 6 roads blocked at 8 nearly ran over a Tibetan who walked out on to the road. and we paid money for this!!!!

]]> By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5461 Venise Alstergren Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5461 Tony, I have read quite a few articles about this subject. Not huge headlines, I agree, but it certainly has been reported. Perhaps if you were to take off your rabid right-wing blinders you may discover said articles. Tony, I have read quite a few articles about this subject. Not huge headlines, I agree, but it certainly has been reported. Perhaps if you were to take off your rabid right-wing blinders you may discover said articles.

]]> By: dermot http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5462 dermot Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5462 the ABC covered it tony, fairfax newspapers covered it. The London Independent and UK telegraph covered it. the shipmment never got to Zimbawe because of a union boycott in Durban. the ABC covered it tony, fairfax newspapers covered it. The London Independent and UK telegraph covered it.

the shipmment never got to Zimbawe because of a union boycott in Durban.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5463 Venise Alstergren Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5463 Bernard: are you serious? You mean this whole pathetic circus is slugging the tax payer $2m. Ch*ist! what the hell is being taken out of the public purse? Bernard: are you serious? You mean this whole pathetic circus is slugging the tax payer $2m. Ch*ist! what the hell is being taken out of the public purse?

]]> By: Marilyn http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5464 Marilyn Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5464 Gee Noddy, lot's of long bows to the Olympic flame don't you think? Going back how far to justify our racist whining? Since Tianamen Square Israel occupied Lebanon another 11 years and then bombed the country to bits 2 years ago, and they have continued to occupy Palestine for another 19 years and slaughter thousands of people. We have invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq and so on. Hypocrites we are. Gee Noddy, lot’s of long bows to the Olympic flame don’t you think? Going back how far to justify our racist whining?

Since Tianamen Square Israel occupied Lebanon another 11 years and then bombed the country to bits 2 years ago, and they have continued to occupy Palestine for another 19 years and slaughter thousands of people.

We have invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq and so on. Hypocrites we are.

]]> By: Noddy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5465 Noddy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5465 Marilyn -- thanks for my daily laugh. Next you will be telling us that Tiananmen Square did not happen and Iraq did not invade Kuwait and that Iraq did not lobb scuds into Israel..... Marilyn — thanks for my daily laugh. Next you will be telling us that Tiananmen Square did not happen and Iraq did not invade Kuwait and that Iraq did not lobb scuds into Israel…..

]]> By: Nick http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5466 Nick Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5466 Hmm, I don't know Tony...maybe it's because the British have been supplying arms to Zimbabwe for the last 30 years (excepting occasional and minimal short-lived sanctions), so it might appear to be incredible double standards. Hmm, I don’t know Tony…maybe it’s because the British have been supplying arms to Zimbabwe for the last 30 years (excepting occasional and minimal short-lived sanctions), so it might appear to be incredible double standards.

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5467 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5467 I hope Venise that in regard to the first of your comments below, it would have been obvious that Tony must already have taken off his "rabid right-wing blinders" to "discover said articles". It is also equally obvious that you, in fact, wear the rabid left wing equivalent! I hope Venise that in regard to the first of your comments below, it would have been obvious that Tony must already have taken off his “rabid right-wing blinders” to “discover said articles”. It is also equally obvious that you, in fact, wear the rabid left wing equivalent!

]]> By: Denis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5468 Denis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5468 I think it might be fun to turn up to the torch relay in a dark suit, with dark sunnies, wearing and obvious hands-free mobile head-set, and photograph as many as possible of the Chinese students/ government agents recruited/ cajoled into supporting the relay. This should make them feel right at home I think it might be fun to turn up to the torch relay in a dark suit, with dark sunnies, wearing and obvious hands-free mobile head-set, and photograph as many as possible of the Chinese students/ government agents recruited/ cajoled into supporting the relay. This should make them feel right at home

]]> By: Mmm http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5469 Mmm Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5469 Any foreign military spies making records or menacing Australian residents should be arrested and locked up. Apparently they have no diplomatic immunity, no security role or authorisation and actually work for a terrorist organisation known as the DRC - Sandy Logan we have a job for you there at the Dept of Immigration. You will have crowds cheering your lads on too. Feel free to cancel thousands of Chinese student visas too. And deduct points from their business migration applications. Throw the book at them! Any foreign military spies making records or menacing Australian residents should be arrested and locked up. Apparently they have no diplomatic immunity, no security role or authorisation and actually work for a terrorist organisation known as the DRC - Sandy Logan we have a job for you there at the Dept of Immigration. You will have crowds cheering your lads on too. Feel free to cancel thousands of Chinese student visas too. And deduct points from their business migration applications. Throw the book at them!

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5470 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5470 Mr. Keane! You are on fire of late! The two paragraphs beginning: "Year after year the same faces, the Kevin Gospers and...'" and ending " is somehow a priori disconnected from basic ethics and standards of civilized behaviour" crystallize the essential problem. We owe our fellow man far more than we owe starkly money mongering professional sport. The Olympics sadly are little more than a 'public relations' opportunity for a regime rather than a celebration of human potential hosted by a nations amongst the family of nations. I applaud the response to the to the torch relay in London, Paris and San Francisco Mr. Keane! You are on fire of late! The two paragraphs beginning: “Year after year the same faces, the Kevin Gospers and…’” and ending ” is somehow a priori disconnected from basic ethics and standards of civilized behaviour” crystallize the essential problem. We owe our fellow man far more than we owe starkly money mongering professional sport. The Olympics sadly are little more than a ‘public relations’ opportunity for a regime rather than a celebration of human potential hosted by a nations amongst the family of nations. I applaud the response to the to the torch relay in London, Paris and San Francisco

]]> By: steve martin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5471 steve martin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5471 Talk about a waste of time, energy and money this silly torch procession is costing and for what? Some people appear to some sort of quasi-religious significance to it.. By all means let the host country light an Olympic flame at the main stadium if they choose the rest is pure bullshit. It is now so commercialized that it is all about the money to the participants,and the IOC through TV rights. Having said all that I will watch as much as possible on TV as will billions of others, and fotunately the time zones mean that it won't mean staying up all night. Talk about a waste of time, energy and money this silly torch procession is costing and for what? Some people appear to some sort of quasi-religious significance to it..
By all means let the host country light an Olympic flame at the main stadium if they choose the rest is pure bullshit.
It is now so commercialized that it is all about the money to the participants,and the IOC through TV rights. Having said all that I will watch as much as possible on TV as will billions of others, and fotunately the time zones mean that it won’t mean staying up all night.

]]> By: Tony Papafilis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5472 Tony Papafilis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5472 Curiosity quiz: Why the silence from western media and politicians over Chian's arms shipment to Mugabe? Are they all Manchurian candidates and grovelling apologists for the world's biggest dictatorship, like our PM Rudd? Curiosity quiz: Why the silence from western media and politicians over Chian’s arms shipment to Mugabe? Are they all Manchurian candidates and grovelling apologists for the world’s biggest dictatorship, like our PM Rudd?

]]> By: Daphne http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5473 Daphne Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5473 I'm speechless! I thought that our brave leader, backed by Mick Kelty, had decreed that security in the national capital was an Oz affair. In a way the Olympics arn't all that bad as a means of high-lighting the brutal Chinese regime . Sports tragics, who had previously never thought of Tibet or Zimbawbe, might just start wondering if China is giving them a fair go. I’m speechless! I thought that our brave leader, backed by Mick Kelty, had decreed that security in the national capital was an Oz affair. In a way the Olympics arn’t all that bad as a means of high-lighting the brutal Chinese regime . Sports tragics, who had previously never thought of Tibet or Zimbawbe, might just start wondering if China is giving them a fair go.

]]> By: Venise Alstergren http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5474 Venise Alstergren Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5474 I find it strange that the Chinese with their several thousand years of diplomatic intrigue, to be acting like a bunch of goons and thugs ; no doubt using the same bully boy tactics they used in Tibet. So much for sophistication. The great Chinese sages would be turning in their graves. If Australia capitulates, and it will, to the Chinese demand of allowing the presence of the boys in blue trackies onto Australian soil we will look like the third world species we are. Kevin Rudd, the Chinese want our mineral wealth, they'll get over their little fit of pique. I'm surprised that so many Chinese studying in Oz have failed to get the message. I find it strange that the Chinese with their several thousand years of diplomatic intrigue, to be acting like a bunch of goons and thugs ; no doubt using the same bully boy tactics they used in Tibet. So much for sophistication. The great Chinese sages would be turning in their graves.
If Australia capitulates, and it will, to the Chinese demand of allowing the presence of the boys in blue trackies onto Australian soil we will look like the third world species we are. Kevin Rudd, the Chinese want our mineral wealth, they’ll get over their little fit of pique. I’m surprised that so many Chinese studying in Oz have failed to get the message.

]]> By: Marilyn http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5475 Marilyn Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5475 Tony, why the media support for the US to send hellfire missiles to Israel to keep murdering more and more Lebanese civilians and fire on fleeing Australian citizens? Now in 1956 we still had the white Australia policy, in 2000 we had thousands of innocent human beings locked in cages in the desert and aborigines living in 4th world conditions. Since then we have invaded and occupied two nations who had not harmed us, cheered when Israel decided to invade and murder more of their neighbours and we dare to pretend we have a human rights record worth protection. Do you people know the meaning of the word hypocrite? For the record it is estimated that 1.2 million Tibetans have died in nearly 50 years, 1.2 million Iraqis are believed to have been killed in 5 years. Is it OK and not a violation of human rights when we do it? Tony, why the media support for the US to send hellfire missiles to Israel to keep murdering more and more Lebanese civilians and fire on fleeing Australian citizens?

Now in 1956 we still had the white Australia policy, in 2000 we had thousands of innocent human beings locked in cages in the desert and aborigines living in 4th world conditions.

Since then we have invaded and occupied two nations who had not harmed us, cheered when Israel decided to invade and murder more of their neighbours and we dare to pretend we have a human rights record worth protection.

Do you people know the meaning of the word hypocrite?

For the record it is estimated that 1.2 million Tibetans have died in nearly 50 years, 1.2 million Iraqis are believed to have been killed in 5 years. Is it OK and not a violation of human rights when we do it?

]]> By: weev http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/23/the-torch-waits-quietly-for-its-moment-in-the-canberra-sun/#comment-5476 weev Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-5476 This writer is not really into the spirit of the occasion, is he? I suggest a couple of years in a re-education institution will clear his muddled, un-sportmanlike thoughts. This writer is not really into the spirit of the occasion, is he? I suggest a couple of years in a re-education institution will clear his muddled, un-sportmanlike thoughts.

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