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	<title>Comments on: The Climate Institute defends its coal alliance</title>
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		<title>By: Simon Rumble</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/18/the-climate-institute-defends-its-coal-alliance/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Rumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I was very disappointed when I heard about this.  I&#039;ve known John Connor for many years, since his time heading the Nature Conservation Council of NSW and he&#039;s always struck me as a principled and smart operator.  This time, however, I&#039;m unable to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Getting into bed with the coal industry and the environmental bruisers of the CFMEU is about as far from a reasonable approach as it gets.  It&#039;s up there with the Heart Foundation tick being given to McDonalds.  The coal industry will most certainly be use this endorsement as a fig leaf for further expansion, while continuing to point to it and say &quot;see, we&#039;re doing something&quot;.

What we need on climate is deep reductions NOW.  The compounding effect of emissions means far future emissions are not nearly as important current and near future emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I was very disappointed when I heard about this.  I&#8217;ve known John Connor for many years, since his time heading the Nature Conservation Council of NSW and he&#8217;s always struck me as a principled and smart operator.  This time, however, I&#8217;m unable to give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>Getting into bed with the coal industry and the environmental bruisers of the CFMEU is about as far from a reasonable approach as it gets.  It&#8217;s up there with the Heart Foundation tick being given to McDonalds.  The coal industry will most certainly be use this endorsement as a fig leaf for further expansion, while continuing to point to it and say &#8220;see, we&#8217;re doing something&#8221;.</p>
<p>What we need on climate is deep reductions NOW.  The compounding effect of emissions means far future emissions are not nearly as important current and near future emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: john hayward</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/18/the-climate-institute-defends-its-coal-alliance/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>john hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would appear that integrity is melting down even faster than the polar ice.  WWF are already leaders in what might  very generously be termed &quot;pragmatism&quot;, while the CFMEU has never shown other than a tribal antipathy to the concept of conservation. Their man in Canberra, Martin Ferguson, almost plagiarised the Fifth Amendment in dodging Kerry O&#039;Brien&#039; questions on his Department&#039;s allegiance to fhe fossil fuel industries on the 7:30 Report Thursday night. Dialogue and negotiation aren&#039;t very useful with certain kinds of people, as Anthony Eden could have told you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear that integrity is melting down even faster than the polar ice.  WWF are already leaders in what might  very generously be termed &#8220;pragmatism&#8221;, while the CFMEU has never shown other than a tribal antipathy to the concept of conservation. Their man in Canberra, Martin Ferguson, almost plagiarised the Fifth Amendment in dodging Kerry O&#8217;Brien&#8217; questions on his Department&#8217;s allegiance to fhe fossil fuel industries on the 7:30 Report Thursday night. Dialogue and negotiation aren&#8217;t very useful with certain kinds of people, as Anthony Eden could have told you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McLoughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/18/the-climate-institute-defends-its-coal-alliance/#comment-3578</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom McLoughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too know John from NSW NCC days but SR is incorrect to say &quot;head of&quot;, in fact CEO but answerable to the elected and constitutional franchise executive board (eg including me elected 2 years 98-99). Also SophieB forgets not just Poola but also Bob Carr seed funding, who launched CliveH&#039;s book. CI has always been an ALP aligned show. In his NCC time Connor ironically (also correctly) condemned Kiernan&#039;s &quot;zeal for the deal&quot; over water infrastructure greenwashing for the Carr Govt. But happily endorsed $300k in $50K/6 month alottments for the forest industry &#039;peace deal&#039; with Carr Govt. 6 monthly to keep NCC on the drip, tame and backed into a formula that kept the Eden native forest chipper open past 2000 in breach of 1995 election promise (1,500 arrests 91-94, biggest in Oz history, even Franklin River, including this writer). I resigned the NCC executive around 99 for compromising its public interest &quot;conservation agenda&quot; over the Eden pulp mill. CI impertinent arrogance is true form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too know John from NSW NCC days but SR is incorrect to say &#8220;head of&#8221;, in fact CEO but answerable to the elected and constitutional franchise executive board (eg including me elected 2 years 98-99). Also SophieB forgets not just Poola but also Bob Carr seed funding, who launched CliveH&#8217;s book. CI has always been an ALP aligned show. In his NCC time Connor ironically (also correctly) condemned Kiernan&#8217;s &#8220;zeal for the deal&#8221; over water infrastructure greenwashing for the Carr Govt. But happily endorsed $300k in $50K/6 month alottments for the forest industry &#8216;peace deal&#8217; with Carr Govt. 6 monthly to keep NCC on the drip, tame and backed into a formula that kept the Eden native forest chipper open past 2000 in breach of 1995 election promise (1,500 arrests 91-94, biggest in Oz history, even Franklin River, including this writer). I resigned the NCC executive around 99 for compromising its public interest &#8220;conservation agenda&#8221; over the Eden pulp mill. CI impertinent arrogance is true form.</p>
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		<title>By: Gratton  Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/18/the-climate-institute-defends-its-coal-alliance/#comment-3579</link>
		<dc:creator>Gratton  Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would organisations want to club together to hurry along the  strange idea of burying the most dangerous waste to mankind and life on the planet? I thought we had worked out long ago that burying our waste products was not a very good idea. Far better to find ways of turning waste into something useful. It seems that there are scientists throughout the world working on a number of ideas to turn CO2 into something useful. Why are we not supporting such work in Australia. Try looking up uses for CO2 on the net. There&#039;s a great industry out there and lots of good ideas. Lets not fixate on one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would organisations want to club together to hurry along the  strange idea of burying the most dangerous waste to mankind and life on the planet? I thought we had worked out long ago that burying our waste products was not a very good idea. Far better to find ways of turning waste into something useful. It seems that there are scientists throughout the world working on a number of ideas to turn CO2 into something useful. Why are we not supporting such work in Australia. Try looking up uses for CO2 on the net. There&#8217;s a great industry out there and lots of good ideas. Lets not fixate on one.</p>
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