Comments on: Renewable energy on the outer at 2020 http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/17/renewable-energy-on-the-outer-at-2020/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:48:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Colin Jones http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/17/renewable-energy-on-the-outer-at-2020/#comment-25567 Colin Jones Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-25567 Clearly the status quo prevails with this "new" government. The fossil fuel crowd have the seats and considering our hypocritical lecturing to others about their contributions to greenhouse warming I don't see anything changing after this talkfest related to renewable energy being taken seriously by this new mob. We're all on the slippery slope together I guess and the inevitability of it is just too much for our pollies to grasp. See you all at the bottom. Clearly the status quo prevails with this “new” government. The fossil fuel crowd have the seats and considering our hypocritical lecturing to others about their contributions to greenhouse warming I don’t see anything changing after this talkfest related to renewable energy being taken seriously by this new mob.
We’re all on the slippery slope together I guess and the inevitability of it is just too much for our pollies to grasp.
See you all at the bottom.

]]> By: Pat Brady http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/17/renewable-energy-on-the-outer-at-2020/#comment-25568 Pat Brady Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-25568 Whilst Helen is passionate about renewable energy and greenhouse gases she displays a naivety that is often to the fore in these discussions. Remember when there is a smell of hundreds of millions of dollars, the rats come out to play. Politics is about money. Remember the Victorian High Plains, well they are just about to be vanquished by the Vic Gov doing deals with mates to save them millions of dollars in expense to dump rock removed from the extended hydro scheme at Bogong. A super highway. Cattle and cars don't mix. You might wonder why the ALP removed cattle from the High Plains, it wasn't to make them pristine as the good willed greenies thought. Sadly any strategy to be formulated will be based upon money, maintaining power, delivering favours and first mover advantage for commercial interests associated with the ALP.Zhengrong, Mills and the like are never going to be invited. Sadly neither will anyone else that has knowledge and a zest for real deliverables and benefits. Whilst Helen is passionate about renewable energy and greenhouse gases she displays a naivety that is often to the fore in these discussions. Remember when there is a smell of hundreds of millions of dollars, the rats come out to play.
Politics is about money. Remember the Victorian High Plains, well they are just about to be vanquished by the Vic Gov doing deals with mates to save them millions of dollars in expense to dump rock removed from the extended hydro scheme at Bogong. A super highway. Cattle and cars don’t mix. You might wonder why the ALP removed cattle from the High Plains, it wasn’t to make them pristine as the good willed greenies thought.
Sadly any strategy to be formulated will be based upon money, maintaining power, delivering favours and first mover advantage for commercial interests associated with the ALP.Zhengrong, Mills and the like are never going to be invited. Sadly neither will anyone else that has knowledge and a zest for real deliverables and benefits.

]]> By: Tom EcologyAction http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/17/renewable-energy-on-the-outer-at-2020/#comment-25569 Tom EcologyAction Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-25569 Thanks Helen, nice work. We will have a G/green government soon enough, have no fear. But it will be too late. That's not me talking, that's history taking it's course. The best we can do is our duty, tell the truth, be frugal in our personal habits, bear witness, and demand justice and revenge on the culprits when it happens. Other that its another fine day, and quite a few still left. Regretably those who go before us will be the lucky ones. Thanks Helen, nice work. We will have a G/green government soon enough, have no fear. But it will be too late. That’s not me talking, that’s history taking it’s course. The best we can do is our duty, tell the truth, be frugal in our personal habits, bear witness, and demand justice and revenge on the culprits when it happens. Other that its another fine day, and quite a few still left. Regretably those who go before us will be the lucky ones.

]]> By: Paul Hodgson http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/17/renewable-energy-on-the-outer-at-2020/#comment-25570 Paul Hodgson Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-25570 I agree with Helen that it is a great pity that David Mills of Ausra won't be at the Summit. He WAS nominated and was prepared to pay his own way from California. A paper he gave last month about the potential of large-scale solar thermal is at http://ausra.com/pdfs/ausra_usgridsupply.pdf. It should be compulsory reading because everything he says about the Southwestern US is valid in Australia Paul Hodgson I agree with Helen that it is a great pity that David Mills of Ausra won’t be at the Summit. He WAS nominated and was prepared to pay his own way from California. A paper he gave last month about the potential of large-scale solar thermal is at http://ausra.com/pdfs/ausra_usgridsupply.pdf. It should be compulsory reading because everything he says about the Southwestern US is valid in Australia

Paul Hodgson

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