Comments on: Barry Hall, the problem the AFL has to have http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:29:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shannon http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-494 Shannon Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-494 As much "fun" as it was to see a little bit of biffo in the game, I mean this in the sense that we had lots of chats over the past few days about other famous incidents and the comments varied from ..."those were the days to" to "...he's a very naughty boy" Where is the cry from workcover? Isnt this a breach of workplace relations or do sports people not belong in this group? As much “fun” as it was to see a little bit of biffo in the game, I mean this in the sense that we had lots of chats over the past few days about other famous incidents and the comments varied from …”those were the days to” to “…he’s a very naughty boy” Where is the cry from workcover? Isnt this a breach of workplace relations or do sports people not belong in this group?

]]> By: thomas hunter - crikey staffer http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-495 thomas hunter - crikey staffer Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-495 Thanks for the comment Shannon. Garry Linnell wrote on that same idea in Tele earlier this week. There seems to be an acceptance that getting punched is a part of playing footy. After seeing how Daniel Conn ended up (his face was completely re-arranged), I wondered if Staker might have pressed charges if the damage was more serious. Thanks for the comment Shannon. Garry Linnell wrote on that same idea in Tele earlier this week.

There seems to be an acceptance that getting punched is a part of playing footy. After seeing how Daniel Conn ended up (his face was completely re-arranged), I wondered if Staker might have pressed charges if the damage was more serious.

]]> By: Harry Lucas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-496 Harry Lucas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-496 I'm inclined to believe that it's time that such incidents be regarded for what they are. Violence causing grevious bodily harm. Hassling such as Brent gave Hall which provoked the attack and should not be part of the game. Having played the game in my earlier years and come out with broken nose, I reckon we should look to having skiills rewarded rather than thuggerey. I’m inclined to believe that it’s time that such incidents be regarded for what they are. Violence causing grevious bodily harm. Hassling such as Brent gave Hall which provoked the attack and should not be part of the game. Having played the game in my earlier years and come out with broken nose, I reckon we should look to having skiills rewarded rather than thuggerey.

]]> By: tony http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-497 tony Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-497 The prospect of biff and bash may be how the TV channels like to promote AFL but the game's greater appeal is about avoidance. It's the dexterity and skill with which a player escapes contact that is more likely to inspire the crowd. Unless, of course, it's one of your players stopping such activity, but it's in the context of a struggle for the ball. Being there on Saturday night when Bazza went the biff, the sound that circled the stadium was one of shock and dismay. Nobody enjoyed that. Not even Hall. The prospect of biff and bash may be how the TV channels like to promote AFL but the game’s greater appeal is about avoidance. It’s the dexterity and skill with which a player escapes contact that is more likely to inspire the crowd. Unless, of course, it’s one of your players stopping such activity, but it’s in the context of a struggle for the ball. Being there on Saturday night when Bazza went the biff, the sound that circled the stadium was one of shock and dismay. Nobody enjoyed that. Not even Hall.

]]> By: Steve Golding http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-498 Steve Golding Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-498 Having been at the game and fairly close to the incident, it disappoints me that all the coverage doesn't show the 10 minutes leading up to Hall's haymaker. Sta(l)ker had been continuously harrassing Hall, not always legally (ie: grabbing his jumper and arms, going "over the shoulder" etc). If the umpires had done their job 10 minutes earlier then we wouldn't be having this conversation. What Sta(l)ker was doing is a deliberate, coached tactic to try and milk a penalty by frustrating their man into doing something stupid. I do not in any way condone Hall's action, but the sad truth is that the umpires seem to take the view that Hall and most of the big power-forwards are big boys and can take care of themselves. It is a running joke among Swan's fans that a defender could pull a knife on Hall and not get penalised, so why should we all be surprised when he snaps? It was an extreme and disproportionate response, but not a totally surprising one. Blow that whistle, ump! Having been at the game and fairly close to the incident, it disappoints me that all the coverage doesn’t show the 10 minutes leading up to Hall’s haymaker. Sta(l)ker had been continuously harrassing Hall, not always legally (ie: grabbing his jumper and arms, going “over the shoulder” etc). If the umpires had done their job 10 minutes earlier then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. What Sta(l)ker was doing is a deliberate, coached tactic to try and milk a penalty by frustrating their man into doing something stupid. I do not in any way condone Hall’s action, but the sad truth is that the umpires seem to take the view that Hall and most of the big power-forwards are big boys and can take care of themselves. It is a running joke among Swan’s fans that a defender could pull a knife on Hall and not get penalised, so why should we all be surprised when he snaps? It was an extreme and disproportionate response, but not a totally surprising one. Blow that whistle, ump!

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/16/barry-hall-the-problem-the-afl-has-to-have/#comment-499 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-499 This wasn't biffo between two fit opponents on the footy oval in a long "noble" tradition. It was a king-hit by thug on an unsighted and unsuspecting footy player. This was the reason it caused so much physical trauma. He should have been banned for the season. This wasn’t biffo between two fit opponents on the footy oval in a long “noble” tradition. It was a king-hit by thug on an unsighted and unsuspecting footy player. This was the reason it caused so much physical trauma. He should have been banned for the season.

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