Comments on: Questions about the Haneef affair that won’t go away http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:13:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Frank Birchall http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/#comment-15428 Frank Birchall Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-15428 What a disgrace and embarrassment the Haneef affair has turned out to be! Not least because of Mr. Keelty's stubborn intransigence in owning up to the mistakes and appalling waste of time and money in pursuing an innocent man. Not a good look for Australia's national security enforcement at all. What Muslim doctor in his or her right mind would want to work in Australia's hospitals after this debacle?Attorney-General McClelland must intervene to cut our losses. What a disgrace and embarrassment the Haneef affair has turned out to be! Not least because of Mr. Keelty’s stubborn intransigence in owning up to the mistakes and appalling waste of time and money in pursuing an innocent man. Not a good look for Australia’s national security enforcement at all. What Muslim doctor in his or her right mind would want to work in Australia’s hospitals after this debacle?Attorney-General McClelland must intervene to cut our losses.

]]> By: RJG http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/#comment-15429 RJG Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-15429 I suspect that the three questions asked are rhetorical. We know the Answers. It was the last f.rt of the ferret. Howard needed another Tampa and Hanneef was it. I will never understand why, but Keelty could never understand that his obligations to the law were superior, to his political masters. Perhaps Kevin will explain it to him. I suspect that the three questions asked are rhetorical. We know the Answers. It was the last f.rt of the ferret. Howard needed another Tampa and Hanneef was it. I will never understand why, but Keelty could never understand that his obligations to the law were superior, to his political masters. Perhaps Kevin will explain it to him.

]]> By: Rod http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/#comment-15430 Rod Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-15430 Isn't it just as dangerous to accept the Kafeel email at face value as it was for the Federal Police to make a whole lot of unwise assumptions? If you were about to commit a terrorist act which would have the police crawling all over your family and known associates, wouldn't it be a good move to send an email, which was bound to be found, to your brother suggesting your brother was not involved and therefore taking the heat off him? The British Judge no doubt had a lot more evidence to support the finding that Sabeel was innocent which has so far not been reported in Australia. All I've seen in media here is comment that this email alone shows the Federal Police's stuff up. Isn't that putting too much weight on one email, or am I just thinking like a Fed? Isn’t it just as dangerous to accept the Kafeel email at face value as it was for the Federal Police to make a whole lot of unwise assumptions? If you were about to commit a terrorist act which would have the police crawling all over your family and known associates, wouldn’t it be a good move to send an email, which was bound to be found, to your brother suggesting your brother was not involved and therefore taking the heat off him?

The British Judge no doubt had a lot more evidence to support the finding that Sabeel was innocent which has so far not been reported in Australia. All I’ve seen in media here is comment that this email alone shows the Federal Police’s stuff up. Isn’t that putting too much weight on one email, or am I just thinking like a Fed?

]]> By: steve http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/#comment-15431 steve Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-15431 This is a sordid business that should leave the public both alert and alarmed regarding the integrity and competence of the AFP and it's leadership. This is a sordid business that should leave the public both alert and alarmed regarding the integrity and competence of the AFP and it’s leadership.

]]> By: JamesK http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/14/questions-about-the-haneef-affair-that-wont-go-away/#comment-15432 JamesK Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-15432 Not in any way to side with the AFP, however, the answer to the first question is that this email should have had no influence in the decision to the AFP to charge Haneef. (It's no reverse smoking gun!). 2. Yes it should have in the course of a legal case been shown to Haneef's lawyers. I'm not sure when the email would have to be shown but I'm quite certain that there would be no legal requirement to show it immediately, particularly when an active investigation was underway. 3.Again we would need a criminal legal opinion about the appropriateness of not disclosing at that moment intime. In short I think you're grandstanding on not very much at all. This in no way is commentary on Dr. Haneef who legally is and must be presumed innocent. Not in any way to side with the AFP, however, the answer to the first question is that this email should have had no influence in the decision to the AFP to charge Haneef. (It’s no reverse smoking gun!). 2. Yes it should have in the course of a legal case been shown to Haneef’s lawyers. I’m not sure when the email would have to be shown but I’m quite certain that there would be no legal requirement to show it immediately, particularly when an active investigation was underway. 3.Again we would need a criminal legal opinion about the appropriateness of not disclosing at that moment intime.
In short I think you’re grandstanding on not very much at all. This in no way is commentary on Dr. Haneef who legally is and must be presumed innocent.

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