Comments on: Newcastle comes down hard on pubs and hooliganism http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/01/newcastle-comes-down-hard-on-pubs-and-hooliganism/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:55:59 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mike smith http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/01/newcastle-comes-down-hard-on-pubs-and-hooliganism/#comment-18398 mike smith Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-18398 Standard bureaucratese, Stephen. If it had a measurable 'positive' effect, they would have claimed that it was obviously working. Since it didn't, they use weasel words... Standard bureaucratese, Stephen. If it had a measurable ‘positive’ effect, they would have claimed that it was obviously working. Since it didn’t, they use weasel words…

]]> By: mike smith http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/01/newcastle-comes-down-hard-on-pubs-and-hooliganism/#comment-18399 mike smith Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-18399 The industry now must take responsibility and stop blaming everybody else."[/quote] Sigh. Funny, I thought it would be the responsibility of the individual who was doing the drinking. How stupid of me, it's always someone else's fault. Maybe our parents! Yea! Lets blame them! PS You've increased comment buffer size, that's good. How about allowing us to use angle brackets now :) The industry now must take responsibility and stop blaming everybody else.”[/quote]

Sigh. Funny, I thought it would be the responsibility of the individual who was doing the drinking. How stupid of me, it’s always someone else’s fault. Maybe our parents! Yea! Lets blame them!

PS You’ve increased comment buffer size, that’s good. How about allowing us to use angle brackets now :)

]]> By: Stephen Riden http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/01/newcastle-comes-down-hard-on-pubs-and-hooliganism/#comment-18400 Stephen Riden Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-18400 Monday's Daily Telegraph (31 March) reported the local Police inspector as saying the "incident report from Saturday night reflected no notable changes, but an average weekend night in the city". The Inspector also said that it would be some time before Police could accurately determine if the curfew had had an impact. If a curfew was effective, it would have an immediate effect. It is not like assaults and vandalism have a long lead time that needs to be worked through. The spirits industry is concerned why the LAB banned only its products. Some beers are above 5%, but the LAB had no problem with that. Anyone for a glass of wine at 13% ABV? A jug of beer is a lot more than 30mls of alcohol/2.4 standard drinks, but that is OK to the NSW LAB. Monday’s Daily Telegraph (31 March) reported the local Police inspector as saying the “incident report from Saturday night reflected no notable changes, but an average weekend night in the city”. The Inspector also said that it would be some time before Police could accurately determine if the curfew had had an impact.

If a curfew was effective, it would have an immediate effect. It is not like assaults and vandalism have a long lead time that needs to be worked through.

The spirits industry is concerned why the LAB banned only its products. Some beers are above 5%, but the LAB had no problem with that. Anyone for a glass of wine at 13% ABV?

A jug of beer is a lot more than 30mls of alcohol/2.4 standard drinks, but that is OK to the NSW LAB.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/04/01/newcastle-comes-down-hard-on-pubs-and-hooliganism/#comment-18401 Lucy Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-18401 Jeez Alex, such wowserism. Some of these measures are no doubt sensible, but let's not get carried away with this all-too-common idea that the people who call themselves "residents' groups" and spend all their free time complaining about other people's fun are the only affected parties who matter. This "ground-breaking" ruling isn't "in favour of inner-city residents" of Newcastle who like drinking after 3am, for instance. If I lived there I would be up in arms. But that's how it goes: the squeaky wheel, etc etc. Jeez Alex, such wowserism. Some of these measures are no doubt sensible, but let’s not get carried away with this all-too-common idea that the people who call themselves “residents’ groups” and spend all their free time complaining about other people’s fun are the only affected parties who matter. This “ground-breaking” ruling isn’t “in favour of inner-city residents” of Newcastle who like drinking after 3am, for instance. If I lived there I would be up in arms. But that’s how it goes: the squeaky wheel, etc etc.

]]>