Pubboy collapses, BRW redfaced
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In business magazines’ desperate search for content they tend to lionise people who often don’t deserve such praise. BRW is more guilty of that sin than most. With its high-selling Rich 200 and spate of subsidiary lists, including Young Rich, Fast100 and Fast Starters mistakes will inevitably be made. One fixture of the BRW in recent times has been ubiquitous pub owner, Mark Alexander-Erber, who has appeared on several recent Young Rich lists and been the subject of a number of glowing profiles (another example of BRW’s generous praise has been Boost-juice queen Janine Allis, whose wealth was grossly overstated by the magazine for a number of years, and who conveniently used to appear on all of BRW’s marketing materials). In its most recent Young Rich edition (which published last October), BRW determined that Alexander-Erber was worth $20 million (up from $18 million in 2006), noting that:
Unfortunately for Pubboy, the only thing that will be listing anywhere are Alexander-Erber’s personal assets – on Ebay. On Saturday, Ben Wilmot in the AFR (stable-mate of BRW) revealed that:
The ANZ Bank, which is understood to have a $10.5 million exposure to the group, has appointed insolvency firm PPB as receivers over six of the group’s pubs across NSW. Wilmot also dryly noted that the future of the self-promoting Alexander-Erber’s reality TV show “now appears uncertain”. Alexander-Erber has proved the exception to the rule “don’t judge a book by its cover”. Many would hold the prejudicial view that an angry-looking, tattooed gentleman sitting on a Harley Davidson may not be the next Warren Buffett. As it turned out in Alexander-Erber’s case, that view is right, proving that Alan Bond isn’t the only one who can go broke owning pubs. |
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81 Comments
Tony Berry, I’m sure you can say this things because you have not been burnt by MAE and to SEAN L. you dont know what you are saying. MAE if you are reading this I’m sure you know who we are, just look at the initials. I will give you a clue (F……C). By the way, have you paid your solicitors?? maybe you would like to speak to Betty S. your favorite person. hehehe. Or ask someone from the CBD hotel the best hotel in NSW according to MAE.
Im sure everyone has their views, if people owe me money we go to court..not cry like a baby and write nasty little things. Mark doesnt hide behind a corporate cloak, he is a character and an individual, what you see is what you get ..good luck pubboy!
To all people arguing on this site.
Facts:
MAE owes ANZ $10.5M
MAE owes ING rental for LPH and CBD approx. $500K
MAE owes Betty S. (ex partner) approx. $5.5M
MAE owes ATO & Superannuation Approx. $2.2M
MAE owes creditors approx. $4 to $5M (including wages)
MAE owes ex partners S&L approx.$850K
Some of the initials on this site like, Richard, Thomas, james Mc, Tracy H would probably be MAE.So MAE get a life and stop preying on innocent people!!!!!!
Renne, I think you meant to write “you’re” not “your” as you did. Thomas, why didn’t you bring that up in your comment, obviously Renne has no idea about the English language but you would rather say that I am “uneducated”! And Thomas, please re read the comment from Sunday, 20 April 2008 12:41:05 AM. You still don’t know when to use full stops, commas and capitol letters!!! pmslrotf
Couldnt happen to a nicer guy, when you believe your own publicity (especially if your writing it) then hitting a brick wall is inevitable!!!
Say goodbye to hollywood Pubboy
Oh My god people get a life who cares …you all seem so intent on blaming and pointing fingers …give it a rest get on with your own life Im sure he is.
hey dl, you go gurl. i worked my ass off at 1 of his pubs and all i got was underpaid and now i find out no super either. y should she say who she is when mae just thretens. u 2 didnt say who u r. btw my names not chris
chris yes I got my super. You said you were under paid and now you’re back tracking. You will get your super and then what will you have to complain about you unfortunate soul.
everytime i think of you i always lose my breath ….whats the weather like down there is it COLD in the morning
mmmmm i want to lick your balls mmmmm DL but we know you stink of fresh blood
This makes me laugh …this company has helped more people behind the scenes over 10 years with donations than anyone would even know…Mark Alexander Hold your head up high mate..!!! if i know you like i do this will make you laugh as well..
are you kidding i posted that
my eyeball just fell out and i enjoyed it with sauce (hot sauce)
i heard the crack did you
JA. I wondered the same thing, it probably is mae making comments under different names, surely there can’t be THAT many people out there that are STILL sucked in by him! Tony Berry, that’s really really funny!!! I’m sure that you really do “admire his balls”. Did you get a good view of them when you were licking his arse??? pmslrotf!!! I find it very interesting that all of the so called mae lovers are very quick to threaten violence when somebody disagrees with them. It seems to be a culture that is encouraged at Pubboy!
I know everyone will receive their money i have inside knowledge & I know a deal is being done
& I also know that those who are loyal will get fixed first and those who have put the knife in will have to wait but i wouldnt call it a collapse by any means
typical aussie bashing what a joke and yes my name is JOHN WEBSTER and i dont give a shit who lost what ..your all idiots !!!
DL once again your quoting rubbish from newspaper articles im wasting no more time with you your a jealous little trog and i doubt your in New York..get a life
Blood is my dinner
Oh Thomas, is that a small case I that you wrote, or can I see a missing apostrophe too?
Who really cares if you don’t know the Australian spelling for gaol, or if there is a missing letter in a comment like these? What this is all about is the missing millions of dollars that Mark has spent that actually isn’t his to spend!
Really, all of this is going to be sorted out in the courts. Mark has nothing left, so there really isn’t any need for all of you to lick his arse anymore!
And please don’t criticise Renne’s spelling and grammatical mistakes too, that would not be nice!
As a matter of fact, I have said all of this to his face, he knows who I am. And one last thing Thomas, I am actually a woman, so don’t assume you know anything about me please!!!
Renne, are you actually racially abusing me? Now you’re making me laugh!!!
Mark I told you many times that nobody understands you…you have been very generous to me and my family and please dont listen to this crap…its only jealousy…i am proud of you as are many many people..
dont lose your edge..keep pushing buddy
NW
I love this country and the tall poppy syndrome bullshit I have worked VERY happily for Mark for nearly 4 years he is more honest and reliable than any of you and if you right him off now your foolish..he is worth more than any of you and deserves it.
A big thanks to those hiding behind my initials.
as when an asset is sold or money invested the first portion goes to staff. before the bank gets a cent..As far as the creditors go I know personally that there is no creditor that will loose anything major as it is either being sorted or personally organised by Mr A-E.
I really dont think this is the forum to have these type of discussions have some respect as whether you like him or not he is an entreprenuer and has done it all with no help and will also get this sorted im sure as im privy to things that i cannot reveal that this will end up ok for all…and to sort out any misconception not one cent that was made by the company was misspent or unaccounted for so to make these comments is a serious matter and this is not the forum for this..to end from my opinion that is based on fact i have also seen the money that went to charities that noone knows about that if it was made public it would maybe change public perception .
DL
again you seem to have your facts wrong as i know the facts but I just dont have the time or inclination to keep up this fruitless arguement when i dont know who you are but i will say this to you in life you have to pick a side and i worry for you if you pick the wrong one as i can honestly say you are wrong with most of these facts..anyway all the best.
Oh Thomas!!! It’s very funny that you want to attack me on my spelling and grammar when you yourself don’t even know how to use an apostrophe!!! What’s that saying about people in glass houses? Anyway, to the real stuff. You are totally wrong on your point about Mark having the sole say on where the money is spent. Even a private company has to pay tax, superannuation, worker’s compensation, worker’s entitlements and wages, rent, interest on loans, electricity bills, poker machine duty (where applicable), suppliers etc etc! Pubboy has not paid it’s due in all of these cases and hence finds itself under administration and soon receivership! Yeah, he is loaded alright, loaded with at least 30 million dollars of debt and no where near enough assets to cover it. And I am not surprised that he is already thinking up a new scam ( I hope he is borrowing money off you), no one is safe from him until he is behind bars. Renne, do you know what time it is here in New York do you? Of course not!
Norwich ate dinner with pussy galore she talks with her mouth full
R thanks for the text..why are you bothering with this obvious uneducated loser she or he who knows is reading rubbish in the papers leave it now im bored you cannot win an arguement with a stupid person..i will see you on the 24th x
i have never seen so many gutless people ready to knock everyone …its the knockers on this site that make this country sux at least this man gives it a go …ok so it didnt go to plan but somethings never do im sure when it really gets down to it it always works out …who are these animals like JA and DL its obviously the same person as the style of writing is the same….i cannot stand people who hide behind this type of forum and quote numbers….anything i have read about mark or pubboy i havent always agreed with but i always admired his balls…so this particular time a few got burnt….im sure they will survive and if they dont how can you balme one person…is an 18 year old going to neck himself if he didnt get a few weeks or a few months of super???? my god this is unbelievable ….there is much bigger things to be harping on about ….. oh and im crying in my soup because 2 banks got burnt …boo FN Hoo
Thomas, FYI. ’ This is an apostrophe. .This is a full stop. ,This is a comma. AND THESE ARE CAPITAL LETTERS. Learn how to use them so that I don’t have to read your dribble more than once to try to get the point of your pointless arguments please.
Richard, I am including what is owed to the banks, rent owing for The LPH and CBD, as well as all the rest, and it is over 30 millions dollars! The assests arn’t worth anywhere near that! I also thank you, as you have apparently confirmed that staff and suppliers are owed a lot of money. All of that money should have been paid instead of Mark buying several cars bought for over $250000 each, along with the extremely expensive and God Awful Harley Davidson motor bikes. And I haven’t even mentioned the $1000 to $2000 dollars of cash that had to be handed over to Mark from each and every Hotel every single week!!! So please don’t call that Grub an entreprenuer, he is a thief and confidence pranxter that seems to still have alot of you fooled! And yes Thomas, as I said before and you finally agree with me, time will tell all.
Richard. Fact: As at 30.11.07, total liabililities to creditors etc, $9,232,000. As at 30.11.07, total liabililities to secured and unsecured creditors & employee entitlements etc, $24,101,000. Add that up! If it’s people like you that have been helping him in the past it’s no wonder he’s fucked now. And for the record, I don’t have to ” pick a side”. I have a very successful business and will never feel the need to associate with Pubboy in the future. I just feel sorry for all the people he’s burned along the way and am appalled to hear that he is contemplating another venture that I am sure will end in tears for alot of people again. And, “Mr A-E” has himself commented on this forum so I think that means it is quite ok for us to continue. Please feel free to refute anything I have said in detail instead of saying things like “I just dont have the time or inclination to keep up this fruitless arguement” (sic) when you are proven to be another Pubboy lackie!
WOW …those comments just gave you away and we know who you are ..thanks for that….the only people we will be preying on now are YOU !!!!!
Her panties were pushed all the way down the bottom of the green bin
Thank you also to those hiding behind my initials.
Mark - if you are reading this: Is it possible to put a claim in to the administrators for the last 30 minutes of my life i spent reading this?
As they say, life is full of experiences, you win some and lose some, but you learn from it and move the hell on.
Robert C, you don’t know what you are talking about. The Administrator, Anthony Milton Sims, will not favour one creitor over another on the basis of who has been licking Mark’s bum or not! He will pay creditors as the LAW says he must.
Nat M and the rest of the so called “Happy Staff”, I suggest you look at your superanuation accounts, you’ll see that nothing has been deposited into your accounts while you have been working at Pubboy (or should I say Grubboy, very funny).
And to you Mark, it is very typical of you to threaton people (I also know exactly who made these other comments, JJ Joey you idiot ….i know exactly who you are >>>??? ), but we all know you go water when some one stands up to you! The Circular To Creditors is very interesting reading, it sounds like you will end up in gaol where you belong. You are just another confidence prankster, and now it’s all over! I hope that you don’t drag all of your disillusioned partners along to gaol with you. Out of space now….
KIMMORA LEE SIMMONS doesnt like to SHARON OSBOURNE
he may have knockers but he has just as many supporters go PUBBOY we love you !!!
Every proffessional soccer player trips on the field, I think PUBBOY will come out of this bigger, better & stronger.
Hi Mark, I’m getting alot of peole asking if you are planning to attend the Liquor Licensing, Hospitality and Gaming Conference I am producing on March 27in Sydney. You’re booked in for the discussion panel. What should I tell them? Andrew Vallentine
that sound i know it ,,,its loud and it …it …it….it..it
just read some of this rubbish, dont bag bianca shes a clone of mark, what goes around comes around, they will be together in hell, may be the little blow in mickael with the big mouth and going to have pubboy out of debt 4 weeks would like to comment
mmm more delicious membrane to saviour
Yea dl u have sprouting alot of stuff we all would like to know who u are ?and I mean all of us so do tell
JJ Joey
you idiot ….i know exactly who you are >>>??? last time we meet im sure you had handcuffs on
nice comments from a person that cant even add up to 10…your right though i aint going anywhere ,,thats because people like you spur me on.
JA, you and Chris are correct. Chris mentioned that he did not get his super, that is correct because I did not get mine either and why? because MAE DID NOT PAY SUPER, why? because he spent the money on himself buying cars, and presents for his ugly girlfriends.
oh right danny. the award says that i get 9% super, but i got none but mae drives around in a porche. have you checked yours?
How this guy managed to stay afloat for so long is beyond me. He has no business scruples and blatently lies to his staff and creditors alike. This has all been about image for Mr Erber - with absolutely no substance.
Dear all i have been reading your comments with much interest I am working within the organisation that is handling both sides (obviously i cannot reveal who) but i have to say im disgusted in how you all are acting , I have my own opinion re whether you actually know Mr Alexander-Erber but let me tell you although this situation isnt perfect there are many people working hard to sort this out including Mr A-E I have re read some of the comments below and again they are unfounded there is no way a $30 million dollar debt in fact the debt has been reported incorrectly in many sectors and once the bank is paid back there is no more than $4 million owing so this situation can be sorted.I have know idea why DL is attacking as if you had really spoken to staff etc you would know that they all as per the law all stat requirements are paid first ie super etc so no staff will go without (in fact thats my job to make sure) so i can assure you ALL staff who worked for the company will be fine.
dL wow who do u think u are .. You obviously are a nasty piece of work with a big mouth and access to a document but do u have the guts to stand by your crap and tell us ur name and business.? Here comes the excuses.
Hey Mark,
Wheres the 11 grand you owe me. Its 90 days past due. Why dont you sell the 8 cars and 4 bikes you own. American chopper, I think not more like Aussie crook. Stop living the dream, you are ruining people financially. People are homeless now
put the lotion in the basket or get the hose again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can assure you i watch this site daily and i have no vested interest in pretending im someone else ..maybe you are hiding something JA …if i have somehting to say i will say it but if what they say about this guy is true …whooohooo JA you have big balls or your just stupid..
Thomas why are you bothering with this unfortunate fake DL look at the time she submitted her comment its 1245am …who the hell is on this shit website at that time she must of just finished her shift ?????
DL
who are you as youre full of it !!!!! he owned a private company not a public one it was his decision and only his where they spent the money,,,you dont even know him…you have no idea if you think he has nothing then your a bigger goose than i thought ….he is still loaded and always will be…go on tough one tell the world your name…ps i saw him last week and i really dont think you could count him out would love to tell you what he is doing but that would SPOIL the surprise ..you might as you seem bitter with your life but then again you may just need to go back to business school to learn how to spell , write and maybe smile…again go on tell us your name ..mines Thomas Engel and I have known him for 8 years and did business with him for 6 of those and will stand by him anyday…come on big shot whats your name???????? you know mine but then again it must be dark in your head so i suppose you will never tell…good bye LOSER
Im afraid im afraid of your HUGE ASS but me i like it but when im done mmmmm when im done
this site is so full of it and its easy for people to hide behind their fake names or initials …all i know is i have worked in the hospitality industry for many many years and you would be a fool to count people out who have drive and ambition and contacts…did these people invest with their eyes closed , did they get focred into it …with every investment their is risk and reward….and i know for a fact that we are dealing with grown ups i just lost $30k on the stock market ,,,you dont see me whinging….and JA you gutless trog doesnt look like you lost anything but are intent or stirring the pot …if you know so much why dont you give the guy a call and discuss it face to face,,,,
pathetic …and dont bother responding as im deleting this site from my browser as it reminds me of working with backward folk….can you hear the banjo playing thats your father hes calling you !!!!!!!!
i like the sound of that it is echoing in my mind please can i have a piece please sir
agree with you Thomas
call me mate we will catch up
rgds
Tim
for christ sake ….does anybody really think its over for Pubboy …he has still got 3 pubs going strong a better base than anyone i know….i cannot believe the comments from ex staff ….your loyalty proves he did the right thing and asked for help..
what bull chris anyone working in this industry gets award wages and this is all crap unless u put ur REAL name I worked for them and I was very happy u sound like tossers regards DANNY
Employed at ex-Pubboy’s busiest hotel. Met Mark many times, he is nothing but inspiring & dedicated. No doubt he’ll be back & no doubts negative comments are from those who stole thousands from him! He is better off w/o you - Enjoy the dole Idoits
let me leave my brown coat instead
Good Luck Mark Im sure you have already worked out a plan to not only pay everyone back but to restablish the group…my advise is make a list of who is supporting you now when its tough and remember them when you are back on top BRx
wow…
The more you read of this the more you are forced to come to the conclusion that you all have no lives… none at all!!! the sycophants espousing the virtues of MAE the clearly hurt (financially and apparently mentally) ex-employees and the strange passers by, who are drawn to this living train wreck… You are all deficient!
This is not where you go to fight your battles, this is not where you will find justice and it certainly isn’t where you go to make a point!!! THIS IS INTERNET!!! Sadly arguing on the Internet is like running in the special Olympics, because even when you win your still a retard!
I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of it though, every delicious word… I was innocently researching Pubboy and was overjoyed to find the 3rd article referring to the company on Google was this one!
having met MAE I can tell you he was nothing if not a gentlemen, he was always polite and smartly dressed, eloquent and interesting. I wish the same could be said for some past employee’s on both sides of the fence… You filthy mouth breathers!
If he stole your money, then there is a good chance that he will go to jail, if he is in fact as guilty as you say, if he has sufficient legal representation that he gets away with it, you have been gifted a wonderful life lesson, which is, their is a different set of rules that apply to everyone and the smarter and wealthier you are the less rules apply… Chances are your pitiful superannuation would be worth less than that lesson anyway!
I say hooray to Mark for being so thoroughly entertaining! Bravo for continuing to drive around in your cars! continue to build what can only be an extravagant statue to your own magnificence and continue living your life your own way… don’t let the bastards get you down!
viva le internets!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU&feature=related
Hey Mark..you always paid me on time and if this joker is homeless over 11 grand then its his problem not yours….ps i thought it was 12 cars and 5 bikes ..? anyway you never did anything wrong by me but you cant keep everyone happy no matter what you do
I always knew this would happen to GRUBBOY I just can’t believe it took so long. Spare a thought for all of his staff that he owes wages and super to (and by that I mean pre-creditors). Dispicable human being. Sucked in.
I used clearasil for years and i just got a boil on my chin and when i squeezed it made me collect my axe…
cut your face ..your too pretty
this is a better read than a harry potter novel ..people act like that know all the facts because they read a creditors report ..that means nothing ..this guy knows exactly what he is doing and anybody that critisizes never had the balls to do it for themselves.You make me laugh DL and all other aussie tossers like you
I met Mark many years ago & can honestly say I haven’t met anyone as singularly and irredeemably detestable since. At best he’s an incompetent moron…at worst a thief liar & fraud. Unfortunately I doubt we’ve seen the last of him. He’s f*cking cockroach.
You two really make me laugh. I haven’t quoted a single thing from a newspaper article, simply because I haven’t read a single thing in a newspaper concerning Pubboy! Most of what I have written is my own observations and opinions. I have mentioned some of the things in the Administrator’s report, which I am much more inclined to believe than Mark’s point of view, because I have spoken to dozens of staff who have been ripped off. I also have spoken to many suppliers that Mark has not paid, some going back many years! I did also quote some of Mark’s threats! I did wonder how long it would take you two arse lickers to concede defeat on this debate, I note that you didn’t reply to my opinion that goes directly against yours Thomas, about where Mark can or can’t spend money that is deposited into the Company’s (Pubboy Pty Ltd) accounts. But see you are wrong, I can win an argument with a stupid person/s!!! Quickly, start texting each other now!!! pmslrotf
So, it seems that even mae supporters are afraid of him too. Why else would Jade and Bianca feel that they have to disown comments made by people just because they have the same intials as they do? I guess that thier paranoid comments justify the likes of Chris not wanting to use his or her own name!
Interesting comments …complet rubbish but interesting I also know exactly who made these other comments…shame as if it wasnt for PUBBOY you would be on the dole ..actually arent you back there. now..pity…but you would be foolish to count me out…
i will eat your boiled ox tongue when im finished
Dear all to clear up any misconception I know mark and asked him if he reads the shit on this site and some how from his response other than on the first day im sure he wouldnt lower himself to read this shit im appalled at myself for even reading this crap…!!!!!
your mamma just left my house and left a piece of pie on the porch
Adam Schwab are you kidding-Pubboy hasnt collapsed -if you call restructuring the group that was built up from scratch..going broke then you havent got a clue..if you want facts ..call at any time but that that would be to easy to report the facts..
Richard thankyou for your comments and a good insight…i agree and apologise for getting carried away in this forum but i dont like the tall poppy syndrome that Australia loves to breed.
this debate is over and i suppose only time will really tell …
Firstly you just sound like a sad little man who cannot spell and is typical of the people that Mark had to put up with I saw him the other day and he has never been happier and if you think an entreprenuer like him is over ….you are even sadder than you seem to be…and i bet you wouldnt say this shit to his face.
Thomas Engel
It is a real shame 2 c what happened & at the same time it was goin 2 happen. I am 1 person that has been effected by the collapse. But u can only blame yourself 4 it u had 2 be blind not 2 c it comin & should of jumped ship when u could. I DNT MY FAULT