Comments on: The Lajamanu Warlpiri community and the democratising power of YouTube http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/ now with extra source Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:11:39 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Japaljarri http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6776 Japaljarri Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6776 Transitive. To respond to your comment they don;t. And there is no suggestion of that in this case. It was a traffic matter. Transitive. To respond to your comment they don;t. And there is no suggestion of that in this case. It was a traffic matter.

]]> By: Commentariatchik http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6777 Commentariatchik Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6777 This is the law. It's not white law, it's Warlpiri law and it was here long before we non-Indigenous got here. Our law didn't respect the law that was already was, and still is, here. It's not a 'cultural norm' it's the law. This is the law. It’s not white law, it’s Warlpiri law and it was here long before we non-Indigenous got here. Our law didn’t respect the law that was already was, and still is, here. It’s not a ‘cultural norm’ it’s the law.

]]> By: Transitive http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6778 Transitive Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6778 The fact Aboriginal law is ancient or wasn't respected by our ancestors does not mean it is relevant to contemporary circumstances or deserving of respect by us, especially if its main present practitioners often use it as an excuse for base purposes. The fact Aboriginal law is ancient or wasn’t respected by our ancestors does not mean it is relevant to contemporary circumstances or deserving of respect by us, especially if its main present practitioners often use it as an excuse for base purposes.

]]> By: Patrick Sullivan http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6779 Patrick Sullivan Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6779 The Warburton Youth Arts group have been posting on You Tube for a while. Warburton is about 1000kms west of Kalgoorlie and a similar distance east of Uluru/Ayers Rock. They also have a blog: http://www.warburtonyoutharts.blogspot.com/ The Warburton Youth Arts group have been posting on You Tube for a while. Warburton is about 1000kms west of Kalgoorlie and a similar distance east of Uluru/Ayers Rock. They also have a blog: http://www.warburtonyoutharts.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Transitive http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6780 Transitive Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6780 Japaljarri, they do. Initiated men have continually told me that women must always obey them or face physical punishment. EDs, cops & courts deal daily with the consequences of such beliefs. Louis Nowra documented this in his Bad Dreaming book last year. Japaljarri, they do. Initiated men have continually told me that women must always obey them or face physical punishment. EDs, cops & courts deal daily with the consequences of such beliefs. Louis Nowra documented this in his Bad Dreaming book last year.

]]> By: Tom McLoughlin http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6781 Tom McLoughlin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6781 Nice article. Great indigenous stuff on YouTube like Warumpi too. Good crack at the end M.S. .... so WILL Christian Kerr still write for Crikey after March 2008 when he fronts for The Australian? Just asking, CK won't take the comment/question (!) Nice article. Great indigenous stuff on YouTube like Warumpi too. Good crack at the end M.S. …. so WILL Christian Kerr still write for Crikey after March 2008 when he fronts for The Australian? Just asking, CK won’t take the comment/question (!)

]]> By: Greg Angelo http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6782 Greg Angelo Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6782 The tragedy of this situation is the clash of cultural belief, which is not dissimilar to the isolation of women in religious observances of both the Moslem and Jewish faith to nominate to so-called civilised examples. Perhaps part of the problem is that the culturally significant area was not a purpose-built edifice with "men only" written on the door, or where generations of misogynistic discrimination segregate men and women in relation to religious activities. The tragedy of this situation is the clash of cultural belief, which is not dissimilar to the isolation of women in religious observances of both the Moslem and Jewish faith to nominate to so-called civilised examples.

Perhaps part of the problem is that the culturally significant area was not a purpose-built edifice with “men only” written on the door, or where generations of misogynistic discrimination segregate men and women in relation to religious activities.

]]> By: FunkyJ http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6783 FunkyJ Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6783 I'm all for respecting people's cultures, but I think the law is more important than ANY culture; indigenous, religious or otherwise. I’m all for respecting people’s cultures, but I think the law is more important than ANY culture; indigenous, religious or otherwise.

]]> By: Japaljarri http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6784 Japaljarri Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6784 Warlpiri Media works (Now P.A.W. media) are an excellent, long running and shamefully lowly funded organisation. Ditto for their highly skillful, committed and professional local and non-local staff. See also recent film www.aboriginalrules.com Warlpiri Media works (Now P.A.W. media) are an excellent, long running and shamefully lowly funded organisation. Ditto for their highly skillful, committed and professional local and non-local staff. See also recent film http://www.aboriginalrules.com

]]> By: dermot mcguire http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6785 dermot mcguire Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6785 FunkyJ I respect the law but the law is not an end in itself the law belongs to our society and our society is better served by respecting cultural norms FunkyJ I respect the law but the law is not an end in itself the law belongs to our society and our society is better served by respecting cultural norms

]]> By: Commentariatchik http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6786 Commentariatchik Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6786 The issue is intrusion - serious intrusion - onto ceremony grounds. Gender issues made it worse but the analogy to western religious misogyny is weak, in that Warlpiri women have their own large body of secret knowledge that men are barred from access to. The issue is intrusion - serious intrusion - onto ceremony grounds. Gender issues made it worse but the analogy to western religious misogyny is weak, in that Warlpiri women have their own large body of secret knowledge that men are barred from access to.

]]> By: Commentariatchik http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/23/the-lajamanu-warlpiri-community-and-the-democratising-power-of-youtube/#comment-6787 Commentariatchik Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-6787 Warlpiri law (and I'd guess other Australian legal systems) has harsh sanctions for rape, child abuse, etc. What evidence is there that its ' main present practitioners often use it as an excuse for base purposes'? Uninformed media beat-ups? Warlpiri law (and I’d guess other Australian legal systems) has harsh sanctions for rape, child abuse, etc. What evidence is there that its ’ main present practitioners often use it as an excuse for base purposes’? Uninformed media beat-ups?

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