Comments on: Macklin’s right, the permit system needs to be reintroduced http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/ now with extra source Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:10:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chris Graham http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13014 Chris Graham Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13014 An NT journalist arguing against permit system because it prevented him from reporting 3 croc attacks. Surprise, surprise. Imagine how angry you'd get if it stopped you from reporting on the footy! Methinks you've missed the point Tim. An NT journalist arguing against permit system because it prevented him from reporting 3 croc attacks. Surprise, surprise. Imagine how angry you’d get if it stopped you from reporting on the footy! Methinks you’ve missed the point Tim.

]]> By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13015 Dr Harvey M Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13015 To Tony & Pam, 'suburbs' ? try Aus Govt visitors visa's to trample on Aus more the big picture. Birch gets it. The shaming of these people before invasion is pure 'projection' If ex-minister slept with 30 in a room he'd have a h-rd-on against a bum asleep To Tony & Pam, ‘suburbs’ ? try Aus Govt visitors visa’s to trample on Aus more the big picture. Birch gets it. The shaming of these people before invasion is pure ‘projection’ If ex-minister slept with 30 in a room he’d have a h-rd-on against a bum asleep

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13016 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13016 "the Australian people have contributed to death,destruction...'' Wouldn't you know with the Rudd government election the naysayers and left wing ideologues are back in town. Barry Humphries was right about "snatching failure from the jaws of success. " “the Australian people have contributed to death,destruction…” Wouldn’t you know with the Rudd government election the naysayers and left wing ideologues are back in town. Barry Humphries was right about “snatching failure from the jaws of success. “

]]> By: Jennifer Clarke http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13017 Jennifer Clarke Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13017 I've seen the tiny, squalid, unplumbed sheds with dirt floors that NT pastoral Aborigines lived in before secure tenure. Not 20 years later, I've read Rothwell calling them 'board'. He can't get basic facts right, let alone understand historical causes. I’ve seen the tiny, squalid, unplumbed sheds with dirt floors that NT pastoral Aborigines lived in before secure tenure. Not 20 years later, I’ve read Rothwell calling them ‘board’. He can’t get basic facts right, let alone understand historical causes.

]]> By: Chris Graham http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13018 Chris Graham Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13018 Light on facts? Like Tony claiming cops can't access black communities, perhaps? For the record, I didn't misspell Rothwell's name, his parents did... ok, maybe I misspelled it a tiny bit. Or as 'Nic' might say, an egregious solecism has been effectuated. Light on facts? Like Tony claiming cops can’t access black communities, perhaps? For the record, I didn’t misspell Rothwell’s name, his parents did… ok, maybe I misspelled it a tiny bit. Or as ‘Nic’ might say, an egregious solecism has been effectuated.

]]> By: Tim Arvier http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13019 Tim Arvier Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13019 Chris, I can start by pointing to the last 3 fatal NT croc attacks where I was denied access to film the areas because the attacks happened on aboriginal land. A very effective way to stop a TV story going to air... no pictures.. no story. Chris, I can start by pointing to the last 3 fatal NT croc attacks where I was denied access to film the areas because the attacks happened on aboriginal land.

A very effective way to stop a TV story going to air… no pictures.. no story.

]]> By: pam http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13020 pam Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13020 Like John Howard, The Australian opposes anything ideological, unless it supports their 'values'. Why should Aboriginals have a say over who tramps over their land, they argue - wonder what their reaction would be to invasion of their privacy? Like John Howard, The Australian opposes anything ideological, unless it supports their ‘values’. Why should Aboriginals have a say over who tramps over their land, they argue - wonder what their reaction would be to invasion of their privacy?

]]> By: Crisper http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13021 Crisper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13021 Chris Graham certainly has a penchant for sarcasm. He also reckons Rothwell is light on facts. Of all the journals in Australia, the NIT would have to be lightest on facts and heaviest on sheer assertion by a country kilometre. Let he who is without sin Chris Graham certainly has a penchant for sarcasm. He also reckons Rothwell is light on facts. Of all the journals in Australia, the NIT would have to be lightest on facts and heaviest on sheer assertion by a country kilometre. Let he who is without sin

]]> By: Kim Lockwood http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13022 Kim Lockwood Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13022 Well said, Chris. Don't give the opposition ammunition by misspelling Rothwell's first name as Nicholas. It's Nicolas. (See his byline.) I lived and worked in the NT as a journalist in the 1960s and '70s, and the permit system worked well for everyone. Well said, Chris. Don’t give the opposition ammunition by misspelling Rothwell’s first name as Nicholas. It’s Nicolas. (See his byline.)
I lived and worked in the NT as a journalist in the 1960s and ’70s, and the permit system worked well for everyone.

]]> By: Bruce Birch http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13023 Bruce Birch Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13023 More Rothwellian 'colourful' terminology: the intervention is a 'revolution' which was 'proclaimed'. An innovative type of revolution, one imposed by the government on a minority group without consultation. Rothwell's piece lacks credibility and honesty. More Rothwellian ‘colourful’ terminology: the intervention is a ‘revolution’ which was ‘proclaimed’. An innovative type of revolution, one imposed by the government on a minority group without consultation. Rothwell’s piece lacks credibility and honesty.

]]> By: Tim Arvier http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13024 Tim Arvier Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13024 The point I was making is permits allow elders to become society's gatekeeper, and that they regularly stop journalists reporting both aboriginal and non-aboriginal issues. Example: Paul Toohey who was arrested for trying to cover an indigenous story. The point I was making is permits allow elders to become society’s gatekeeper, and that they regularly stop journalists reporting both aboriginal and non-aboriginal issues.

Example: Paul Toohey who was arrested for trying to cover an indigenous story.

]]> By: Dr Harvey M Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13025 Dr Harvey M Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13025 James says I am a ‘lefty’, well your L - R detector is stuffed. James indicates his guilt and seems to agree with the causes of death. We need to heartily spew out toxic L – R cr-p and love our black brother and his land. To a scientist Barry makes sense. James says I am a ‘lefty’, well your L - R detector is stuffed. James indicates his guilt and seems to agree with the causes of death. We need to heartily spew out toxic L – R cr-p and love our black brother and his land. To a scientist Barry makes sense.

]]> By: Tony Papafilis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13026 Tony Papafilis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13026 Come on, Pam, think a bit. Are you able to stop people going through your suburb? No. So why should there be a wall built around Aborignal towns / communties? Stop police or others paying unexpected visits at the wrong time, like dole - drink day? Come on, Pam, think a bit. Are you able to stop people going through your suburb? No. So why should there be a wall built around Aborignal towns / communties? Stop police or others paying unexpected visits at the wrong time, like dole - drink day?

]]> By: Dr Harvey Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13027 Dr Harvey Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13027 To Tim Arvier I say the Australian Govt and people have contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom. Can he tell me which has contributed the most. One would have to look at and assess evidence to answer that question. To Tim Arvier I say the Australian Govt and people have contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom. Can he tell me which has contributed the most. One would have to look at and assess evidence to answer that question.

]]> By: John James http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13028 John James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13028 Rothwell is right. It's back to the Nuggett Coombs inspired apartheid much loved by the ALP, but condemning indigenous communities to the isolation and abuse that Noel Pearson has documented so well. I think Jenny Macklin has been consulting Claire Martin Rothwell is right. It’s back to the Nuggett Coombs inspired apartheid much loved by the ALP, but condemning indigenous communities to the isolation and abuse that Noel Pearson has documented so well. I think Jenny Macklin has been consulting Claire Martin

]]> By: Chris Graham http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13029 Chris Graham Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13029 Horsepoo! Toohey was nicked for trespass after ignoring requests to stay away from Wadeye on the DAY ONLY of a funeral. He turned up at regardless, and tried to interview grieving family members. Imagine doing that to the family of a Bali bombing victim? Horsepoo! Toohey was nicked for trespass after ignoring requests to stay away from Wadeye on the DAY ONLY of a funeral. He turned up at regardless, and tried to interview grieving family members. Imagine doing that to the family of a Bali bombing victim?

]]> By: Tim Arvier http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13030 Tim Arvier Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13030 To Harvey Tarvydas. I am not arguing the Australian Govt and people haven't contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom... merely saying permits don't help that situation. Two wrongs don't make a right. To Harvey Tarvydas. I am not arguing the Australian Govt and people haven’t contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom… merely saying permits don’t help that situation.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

]]> By: Tony Abrahams http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13031 Tony Abrahams Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13031 Chris Graham. Thank you. Well said. Chris Graham. Thank you. Well said.

]]> By: Tony Papafilis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13032 Tony Papafilis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13032 Can the good Dr tell us what good do permits do, what purpose do they serve? Can the good Dr tell us what good do permits do, what purpose do they serve?

]]> By: Tony Papafilis http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13033 Tony Papafilis Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13033 It has been made perfectly clear that Aboriginal communites are effectively at the mercy of violent criminals. It is hard to see permits as anything but a protection racket for criminals to keep people inside from discovering the wonderful world outside. It has been made perfectly clear that Aboriginal communites are effectively at the mercy of violent criminals. It is hard to see permits as anything but a protection racket for criminals to keep people inside from discovering the wonderful world outside.

]]> By: Tim Arvier http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13034 Tim Arvier Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13034 The permit system has contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom. As an NT journalist, I can point to many occasions where stories (some not even about aboriginal issues) haven't been written because of permits. The permit system has contributed to death, destruction, doom and gloom. As an NT journalist, I can point to many occasions where stories (some not even about aboriginal issues) haven’t been written because of permits.

]]> By: Chris Graham http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13035 Chris Graham Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13035 I can't wait until Tim, "as an NT journalist" points out the many articles he's written (or broadcast) about "the many articles that haven't been written because of permits". Actually, even just pointing out one would do Tim... even a little one? I can’t wait until Tim, “as an NT journalist” points out the many articles he’s written (or broadcast) about “the many articles that haven’t been written because of permits”. Actually, even just pointing out one would do Tim… even a little one?

]]> By: Harvey M Tarvydas http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/18/macklins-right-the-permit-system-needs-to-be-reintroduced/#comment-13036 Harvey M Tarvydas Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000 #comment-13036 Good on ya Chris Graham. I have yet to hear one sound reason for abolition of the permits. They are just being verballed. When the hot air detector separates that stuff from the evidence we can then move on to some intellectual new ground (up-ideologies) Good on ya Chris Graham.
I have yet to hear one sound reason for abolition of the permits. They are just being verballed. When the hot air detector separates that stuff from the evidence we can then move on to some intellectual new ground (up-ideologies)

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