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	<title>Comments on: Aussie cricketers are in a mire of their own making</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11689</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Lalor&#039;s article in today&#039;s Australian, clearly sets out India might not of complained if they drew the match. Also goes through some history. In India&#039;s recent tour to England regarding Dohni&#039;s appeal for a non catch. You can not have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Lalor&#8217;s article in today&#8217;s Australian, clearly sets out India might not of complained if they drew the match. Also goes through some history. In India&#8217;s recent tour to England regarding Dohni&#8217;s appeal for a non catch. You can not have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Archibald</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11690</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Archibald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On balance there was no winner so surely the ICC should ask the third umpire to review the entire game and declare it a draw, reduce Singn&#039;s penalty to suspended, get some grace pills and set up a cracker test for Perth with the worlds biggest TV audience</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On balance there was no winner so surely the ICC should ask the third umpire to review the entire game and declare it a draw, reduce Singn&#8217;s penalty to suspended, get some grace pills and set up a cracker test for Perth with the worlds biggest TV audience</p>
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		<title>By: Milind Ektare</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11691</link>
		<dc:creator>Milind Ektare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the sport or game is not played, it is designed for, then second half doesn&#039;t carry any boundries of following rules.
ICC need to state rules in favour of Australians OR against India, then if this mess happens, there is no corrective action possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the sport or game is not played, it is designed for, then second half doesn&#8217;t carry any boundries of following rules.<br />
ICC need to state rules in favour of Australians OR against India, then if this mess happens, there is no corrective action possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11692</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was disappointed that Symonds did not walk - but now the Australian team and Ricky Ponting is being unfairly attacked by an english journalist - I am glad he didn&#039;t (because not many Englishmen walk)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was disappointed that Symonds did not walk - but now the Australian team and Ricky Ponting is being unfairly attacked by an english journalist - I am glad he didn&#8217;t (because not many Englishmen walk)</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11693</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the heat from all of the outraged  comments in the press-I mean Chr*st! there is Joseph from USA-together with the heat from the football during the season; could be turned towards the whaling issue. We would be having the Japanese for breakfast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the heat from all of the outraged  comments in the press-I mean Chr*st! there is Joseph from USA-together with the heat from the football during the season; could be turned towards the whaling issue. We would be having the Japanese for breakfast!</p>
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		<title>By: Milind Ektare</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11694</link>
		<dc:creator>Milind Ektare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many historians have said: Don&#039;t obey false deeds. The one who deviates from truth is less @ fault than the one who obeys him. If umpires are deciding / fixing matches, and reaction is un-sporting, then do not play. You play means you support mis-deeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many historians have said: Don&#8217;t obey false deeds. The one who deviates from truth is less @ fault than the one who obeys him. If umpires are deciding / fixing matches, and reaction is un-sporting, then do not play. You play means you support mis-deeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11695</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venise, you got it! Seems we&#039;ve energy for this while whales face harpoons &amp; cutting CO2 emissions quickly &amp; drastically is THE issue that must be addressed NOW. We must all work together yet we (both sides) can&#039;t agree on rules of engagement for a game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venise, you got it! Seems we&#8217;ve energy for this while whales face harpoons &#038; cutting CO2 emissions quickly &#038; drastically is THE issue that must be addressed NOW. We must all work together yet we (both sides) can&#8217;t agree on rules of engagement for a game!</p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11696</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;monkey&quot; may not be considered racist in India, but the &#039;word&#039; , the chanting and the disgusting crowd behaviour in Mumbai certainly appeared racist to me. It seems unlikely that Singh was referring to a Hindu god when talking to Symonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;monkey&#8221; may not be considered racist in India, but the &#8216;word&#8217; , the chanting and the disgusting crowd behaviour in Mumbai certainly appeared racist to me. It seems unlikely that Singh was referring to a Hindu god when talking to Symonds.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert </title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11697</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, you&#039;re perfectly right, I&#039;ve been itching to say it.  With Howard gone, hopefully this sick (dare I say it? - unAustralian), bullying nationalism is gone.  Remember Haneef?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, you&#8217;re perfectly right, I&#8217;ve been itching to say it.  With Howard gone, hopefully this sick (dare I say it? - unAustralian), bullying nationalism is gone.  Remember Haneef?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph from USA</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11698</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph from USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff: Indeed a very sad day 4 Australia that a lying-whining-cheating-childish Ricky is compared to Churchill.
Aussies absymal behavior and lack-of-integrity was there for all to see. Feel sorry that a nations ha straded it&#039;s soul &amp; morals 4 match-fixng</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff: Indeed a very sad day 4 Australia that a lying-whining-cheating-childish Ricky is compared to Churchill.<br />
Aussies absymal behavior and lack-of-integrity was there for all to see. Feel sorry that a nations ha straded it&#8217;s soul &#038; morals 4 match-fixng</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11699</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bagging Roebuck by referring to his origin is racism plain &amp; simple. Faced with a combative opponent dishing out their own kind of behaviour Ponting&#039;s crew resorted to simple and outright cheating. The triumpalism at the end - crude. Indefensible. Vile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bagging Roebuck by referring to his origin is racism plain &#038; simple. Faced with a combative opponent dishing out their own kind of behaviour Ponting&#8217;s crew resorted to simple and outright cheating. The triumpalism at the end - crude. Indefensible. Vile.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11700</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so far this test had dozen of wrong decission from umpires . there is no doubt about that .90% of decission was against indians at crucial stage of the game which eventually shift the direction of the game.final blow was harbajan ban for racism. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so far this test had dozen of wrong decission from umpires . there is no doubt about that .90% of decission was against indians at crucial stage of the game which eventually shift the direction of the game.final blow was harbajan ban for racism.</p>
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		<title>By: hirdesh</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11701</link>
		<dc:creator>hirdesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way in which aussies reacted on field throughout the match is seen by whole world and still they claim that the match was played in good spirit? is that the spirit to take the catches which are grounded and still claiming that they took it rightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way in which aussies reacted on field throughout the match is seen by whole world and still they claim that the match was played in good spirit? is that the spirit to take the catches which are grounded and still claiming that they took it rightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11702</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to Milind Ektare last comment, maybe the problem started in the First Test when Yuvraj Singh stayed at wicket when given out (and was clearly out). He did not want to walk when given out. Procter made mistake in not fining him for his conduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to Milind Ektare last comment, maybe the problem started in the First Test when Yuvraj Singh stayed at wicket when given out (and was clearly out). He did not want to walk when given out. Procter made mistake in not fining him for his conduct.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11703</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so much more than about cricket. Remember John Howard at the Rugby World Cup final ? Now look at Mr Ponting. Go figure.  For a decade we have been given the dog whistled right to lord it in rabid style and get narky when we don&#039;t win. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so much more than about cricket. Remember John Howard at the Rugby World Cup final ? Now look at Mr Ponting. Go figure.  For a decade we have been given the dog whistled right to lord it in rabid style and get narky when we don&#8217;t win.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph from USA</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11704</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph from USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Ricky says the Harbhajan-Symo thing is a &#039;small incident&#039; that India is blowing out of proportion. Another example of double-stdd.-big enough 4 Ponting to whine &amp; moan and complain but not for India when there is NO EVIDENCE. Also:Monkey is not racist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Ricky says the Harbhajan-Symo thing is a &#8216;small incident&#8217; that India is blowing out of proportion. Another example of double-stdd.-big enough 4 Ponting to whine &#038; moan and complain but not for India when there is NO EVIDENCE. Also:Monkey is not racist</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11705</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s still the silly season and journalists the world over need something to write about but can we please have some perspective on this..it&#039;s a game!  And just what are the &quot;cricketing traditions&quot; that Ponting and his team have &quot;no regard for&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s still the silly season and journalists the world over need something to write about but can we please have some perspective on this..it&#8217;s a game!  And just what are the &#8220;cricketing traditions&#8221; that Ponting and his team have &#8220;no regard for&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11706</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody define ruthless? If it means the Australian Cricket team trains hard, plays hard and every time they go on to the field they expect to win I have no problems with it.

However it seems to be used in another context that I do not understand or is it just lazy journalism because some clown like Peter Roebuck uses it so all follow suit.

Also there seems to be an awful lot of people in this country that are uncomfortable with Australia being good at anything – not just cricket. The moment they can find something negative they latch on to it and are as happy as can be. A lot of them work at Crikey.

I am on the side of the umpires – they get it wrong rarely but overall do a very good job. Wrong decisions are part of cricket – always have been but when the robots take over maybe not forever.

I also enjoyed the second test and was particularly delighted with the outcome – pity about a bunch of juveniles on the Indian Cricket Board who just have to flex their muscle time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody define ruthless? If it means the Australian Cricket team trains hard, plays hard and every time they go on to the field they expect to win I have no problems with it.</p>
<p>However it seems to be used in another context that I do not understand or is it just lazy journalism because some clown like Peter Roebuck uses it so all follow suit.</p>
<p>Also there seems to be an awful lot of people in this country that are uncomfortable with Australia being good at anything – not just cricket. The moment they can find something negative they latch on to it and are as happy as can be. A lot of them work at Crikey.</p>
<p>I am on the side of the umpires – they get it wrong rarely but overall do a very good job. Wrong decisions are part of cricket – always have been but when the robots take over maybe not forever.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed the second test and was particularly delighted with the outcome – pity about a bunch of juveniles on the Indian Cricket Board who just have to flex their muscle time</p>
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		<title>By: Venise Alstergren</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11707</link>
		<dc:creator>Venise Alstergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph of the USA, are you really an American, I mean cricket and USA are not usually synonymous?  Chr*st you are a stirrer; and I thought I was bad!

Cheers, olé, olé!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph of the USA, are you really an American, I mean cricket and USA are not usually synonymous?  Chr*st you are a stirrer; and I thought I was bad!</p>
<p>Cheers, olé, olé!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph from USA</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11708</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph from USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarke is a pup (dog); Aussies teams are &#039;kangaroos&#039;; McGrath is &#039;Pigeon&#039;. And &#039;monkey&#039; (a God in India) is suddenly &#039;racist&#039;!!   Aussies use 4 letter words all the time-they always INITIATE the sledging.
Pls wake up Punter et  &amp; take some responsibity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarke is a pup (dog); Aussies teams are &#8216;kangaroos&#8217;; McGrath is &#8216;Pigeon&#8217;. And &#8216;monkey&#8217; (a God in India) is suddenly &#8216;racist&#8217;!!   Aussies use 4 letter words all the time-they always INITIATE the sledging.<br />
Pls wake up Punter et  &#038; take some responsibity</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11709</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If 3 tail enders can not hold out an over form Michael Clarke, Indian cricket is in trouble. Maybe India can not cope with the pressure. Everything was fine when India were batting well in the first innings (no complaints!) - only when they lose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 3 tail enders can not hold out an over form Michael Clarke, Indian cricket is in trouble. Maybe India can not cope with the pressure. Everything was fine when India were batting well in the first innings (no complaints!) - only when they lose!</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11710</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Singh called Symonds a monkey, then that IS racist, not supposedly racist, and the book should be thrown at him. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Singh called Symonds a monkey, then that IS racist, not supposedly racist, and the book should be thrown at him.</p>
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		<title>By: Daphne Benham</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11711</link>
		<dc:creator>Daphne Benham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I dyed-in-the-wool antique Aussie supporter I wanted India to win. Symonds should have walked, and who appointed Ponting as umpire?  Monkeys are our nearest relations, and  better groomed than Symonds, so why the hissy fit?  Indians go home, proudly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I dyed-in-the-wool antique Aussie supporter I wanted India to win. Symonds should have walked, and who appointed Ponting as umpire?  Monkeys are our nearest relations, and  better groomed than Symonds, so why the hissy fit?  Indians go home, proudly.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did the Australian Cricket Team cheat? I see no different to the appealing and lack of walking by the Indians or any other Cricket team in last 10 years. Not the Australian&#039;s fault umpires were dreadful (Tendulkar was given not out when 30).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did the Australian Cricket Team cheat? I see no different to the appealing and lack of walking by the Indians or any other Cricket team in last 10 years. Not the Australian&#8217;s fault umpires were dreadful (Tendulkar was given not out when 30).</p>
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		<title>By: Indian</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/01/08/aussie-cricketers-are-in-a-mire-of-their-own-making/#comment-11713</link>
		<dc:creator>Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final Verdict: 

Ricky Pointing the Captain and Micheal Clarke the much touted future captain are cheaters. Symonds, Hayden &amp; Clarke are liars cause Harbhajan said, &quot;Teri Ma Ki&quot; which was converted to, &quot;Monkey&quot; by these three, and no evidence was produced</description>
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<p>Ricky Pointing the Captain and Micheal Clarke the much touted future captain are cheaters. Symonds, Hayden &#038; Clarke are liars cause Harbhajan said, &#8220;Teri Ma Ki&#8221; which was converted to, &#8220;Monkey&#8221; by these three, and no evidence was produced</p>
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