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	<title>Comments on: We will all pay for Howard’s hidden greenhouse debt</title>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17282</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this means is that Rudd has to become a real revolutionary.  He needs to visit winningtheoilendgame dot org. Begin our ascension to world leaders on energy and climate change. Forget quibbling on % points, transform the country, and the world. Fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this means is that Rudd has to become a real revolutionary.  He needs to visit winningtheoilendgame dot org. Begin our ascension to world leaders on energy and climate change. Forget quibbling on % points, transform the country, and the world. Fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophe</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17283</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on. May we never see such erosion of government process, the public service and the independence of our research community again. Rudd is going to have to do some hard work selling the case for drastic action to the community. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. May we never see such erosion of government process, the public service and the independence of our research community again. Rudd is going to have to do some hard work selling the case for drastic action to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17284</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard&#039;s thinking was formulated and solidified more than 30 years ago, before climate change was obvious.  He couldn&#039;t accept climate change in 2001 in the same way that we don&#039;t readily accept martians and mermaids now.  Ce la vie.  So.  What to do now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard&#8217;s thinking was formulated and solidified more than 30 years ago, before climate change was obvious.  He couldn&#8217;t accept climate change in 2001 in the same way that we don&#8217;t readily accept martians and mermaids now.  Ce la vie.  So.  What to do now?</p>
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		<title>By: guido</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17285</link>
		<dc:creator>guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james - socialist/green nah nah agenda? Frank - Ce la vie? It is a crime this country allows you 2 to vote.  Frank, what to do next?  put your head back in the sand where it has been conmfortable for so long. James- let it go, Howard lost for good reasons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james - socialist/green nah nah agenda? Frank - Ce la vie? It is a crime this country allows you 2 to vote.  Frank, what to do next?  put your head back in the sand where it has been conmfortable for so long. James- let it go, Howard lost for good reasons</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17286</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd is not responsible for Howards failing, but he has made a major mistake at Bali.  He will never be this credible or this visible again.  Even if he adopts Garnaut the world wont care.  This was his moment to shine.  He earned it, but then bottled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd is not responsible for Howards failing, but he has made a major mistake at Bali.  He will never be this credible or this visible again.  Even if he adopts Garnaut the world wont care.  This was his moment to shine.  He earned it, but then bottled it.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17287</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is not the the usual Clive Hamilton mroalism, economic illiteracy and innumeracy, let&#039;s see a model, hindsight allowed, that makes anything done by Oz in the past enhance our means of protecting ourselves against what others emissions do to harmus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is not the the usual Clive Hamilton mroalism, economic illiteracy and innumeracy, let&#8217;s see a model, hindsight allowed, that makes anything done by Oz in the past enhance our means of protecting ourselves against what others emissions do to harmus</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunwick</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17288</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hunwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive Hamilton is to be congratulated in describing succinctly the position Australia finds itself in. However, an even greater debt has been created - namely the lack of eduction of the community as to the implications of the issue and the cuts we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive Hamilton is to be congratulated in describing succinctly the position Australia finds itself in. However, an even greater debt has been created - namely the lack of eduction of the community as to the implications of the issue and the cuts we need.</p>
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		<title>By: altakoi</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17289</link>
		<dc:creator>altakoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its worse than the media not noticing. Many opinion writers have been at the forefront of climate change denial because we all know its latte sipping inner city non-Australians who have made up this whole climate change thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its worse than the media not noticing. Many opinion writers have been at the forefront of climate change denial because we all know its latte sipping inner city non-Australians who have made up this whole climate change thing.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17290</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ya just love it? The left, according to James, is now to blame for what Howard has done. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ya just love it? The left, according to James, is now to blame for what Howard has done. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17291</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High and Dry by Guy Pearse made it very clear that Howard and his toadies had been lying to us over all the last 10 years and no-one in the media noticed.

I note they are quick to blame Rudd though he has been PM for 11 days now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High and Dry by Guy Pearse made it very clear that Howard and his toadies had been lying to us over all the last 10 years and no-one in the media noticed.</p>
<p>I note they are quick to blame Rudd though he has been PM for 11 days now.</p>
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		<title>By: wantok</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17292</link>
		<dc:creator>wantok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Howard&#039;s intransigence on this inexplicable.  From the start he was literally outsourcing the drafting of his energy policy to the coal lobby.  Empirically it does not makes sense, and I would not be surprised to see reports of personal corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Howard&#8217;s intransigence on this inexplicable.  From the start he was literally outsourcing the drafting of his energy policy to the coal lobby.  Empirically it does not makes sense, and I would not be surprised to see reports of personal corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/12/14/we-will-all-pay-for-howards-hidden-greenhouse-debt/#comment-17293</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the Left should take some responsibility for Howard&#039;s so-called CC debt? Instead of using CC as a chance to promote a socialist/green nah nah agenda - that conservatives like Howard would resist on principle - there was a chance for all to unite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Left should take some responsibility for Howard&#8217;s so-called CC debt? Instead of using CC as a chance to promote a socialist/green nah nah agenda - that conservatives like Howard would resist on principle - there was a chance for all to unite!</p>
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