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	<title>Comments on: Mean, diminished and out of touch: Why won&#8217;t Nelson say sorry?</title>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5148</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the name of decency Australian Government APOLOGIZE NOW  - discussion not required. Apology is also called for stupidity of the last decade- where racism racism racism is upheld as honorable in Coalition terms and preferable to fairness and truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the name of decency Australian Government APOLOGIZE NOW  - discussion not required. Apology is also called for stupidity of the last decade- where racism racism racism is upheld as honorable in Coalition terms and preferable to fairness and truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Papafilis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5149</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Papafilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A crowd demonstrating does not mean government must jump to its demands. Majority not determined by demonstrations. State Parliaments, responsible for Aboriginal welfare, have apologised. Would Lowitja&#039;s life have been better without removal? Unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A crowd demonstrating does not mean government must jump to its demands. Majority not determined by demonstrations. State Parliaments, responsible for Aboriginal welfare, have apologised. Would Lowitja&#8217;s life have been better without removal? Unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: michele</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5150</link>
		<dc:creator>michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Nelson inferred that all or most activity around the stolen generation was carried out by &quot;well-intentioned&quot;  whites who were trying to help, that really underlined for me why we need to say sorry and quick smart!  - sorry-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Nelson inferred that all or most activity around the stolen generation was carried out by &#8220;well-intentioned&#8221;  whites who were trying to help, that really underlined for me why we need to say sorry and quick smart!  - sorry-</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5151</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowitja is national treasure material -  noting Nelson as &#039;mean, diminished and out of touch&#039;  - bitter?? ???not really - just fundamental truth. Lowitja is wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowitja is national treasure material -  noting Nelson as &#8216;mean, diminished and out of touch&#8217;  - bitter?? ???not really - just fundamental truth. Lowitja is wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5152</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Papafilis......  Certainly could not and would not try to answer your irrelevant question regarding Ms Lowitja.  This is her personal business and nothing to do with the subject being discussed here.  That is: Why won&#039;t the Liberals say &#039;Sorry&#039; !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Papafilis&#8230;&#8230;  Certainly could not and would not try to answer your irrelevant question regarding Ms Lowitja.  This is her personal business and nothing to do with the subject being discussed here.  That is: Why won&#8217;t the Liberals say &#8216;Sorry&#8217; !!!</p>
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		<title>By: asaf</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5153</link>
		<dc:creator>asaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Sorry&#039; needs to come from all members of parliament. Not just those that happen to be elected at the time. It is not a political issue and should not be treated as one. 

Brendon,
Release yourself from ideology. It controls you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="quo">&#8216;</span>Sorry&#8217; needs to come from all members of parliament. Not just those that happen to be elected at the time. It is not a political issue and should not be treated as one. </p>
<p>Brendon,<br />
Release yourself from ideology. It controls you.</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5154</link>
		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people marched the streets, signed the Sorry books and the writing was in the sky Mr HOWard called us  (the general public) THE MOB
That came as a huge shock to many normal people  - unlike Brendan
So much for democracy -looked like fascism - so SAD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people marched the streets, signed the Sorry books and the writing was in the sky Mr HOWard called us  (the general public) THE MOB<br />
That came as a huge shock to many normal people  - unlike Brendan<br />
So much for democracy -looked like fascism - so SAD</p>
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		<title>By: devi</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5155</link>
		<dc:creator>devi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The apology would be from the Govt for enacting these policies, not from &#039;the people&#039; or any particular generation(s).  The Govt was responsible and the Govt should apologise, in the same way that Beazley did for Labor&#039;s part in supporting the policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apology would be from the Govt for enacting these policies, not from &#8216;the people&#8217; or any particular generation(s).  The Govt was responsible and the Govt should apologise, in the same way that Beazley did for Labor&#8217;s part in supporting the policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Papafilis</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5156</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Papafilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, PM Howard, on behalf of Commonwealth Parliament, made a statement expressing sorrow &amp; regret for those who suffered from past practices. So who is hung up on semantics? Symbolism that the left always wins? Why did Lowitja reject her family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, PM Howard, on behalf of Commonwealth Parliament, made a statement expressing sorrow &#038; regret for those who suffered from past practices. So who is hung up on semantics? Symbolism that the left always wins? Why did Lowitja reject her family?</p>
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		<title>By: ange</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5157</link>
		<dc:creator>ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowitja is a bitter relic, a Paul Keating type, a hater whose time has passed. Other aboriginal leaders are more relevant and have useful contributions. Kevin07 and Nelson won&#039;t fall for this bile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowitja is a bitter relic, a Paul Keating type, a hater whose time has passed. Other aboriginal leaders are more relevant and have useful contributions. Kevin07 and Nelson won&#8217;t fall for this bile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5158</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like Howard and Nelson use the excuse &quot;We were not the people responsible, so why should we say sorry?&quot;  
Maybe they want us to stop celebrating Anzac Day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Howard and Nelson use the excuse &#8220;We were not the people responsible, so why should we say sorry?&#8221;<br />
Maybe they want us to stop celebrating Anzac Day?</p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5159</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For JWH:  &#039;Who&#039;s sorry now!  Who&#039;s sorry now!  Who&#039;s heart is aching for breaking each vow!&#039; ... :):):)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For JWH:  &#8216;Who&#8217;s sorry now!  Who&#8217;s sorry now!  Who&#8217;s heart is aching for breaking each vow!&#8217; &#8230; <img src='http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :):)</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Gretton</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Gretton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eloquent and persuasive, Professor, which is more than I can say for Doctor Nelson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eloquent and persuasive, Professor, which is more than I can say for Doctor Nelson.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5161</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The madness of this drives me insane.    It was kidnapping, cultural genocide and was happening until I was 19 years old.

Perhaps that clown Nelson doesn&#039;t understand that it was until 1972 so it is our responsiblitiy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The madness of this drives me insane.    It was kidnapping, cultural genocide and was happening until I was 19 years old.</p>
<p>Perhaps that clown Nelson doesn&#8217;t understand that it was until 1972 so it is our responsiblitiy.</p>
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		<title>By: dermot mcguire</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5162</link>
		<dc:creator>dermot mcguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tony stop trying to rewrite history  howard expressed  no sorrow just regret like someone at the funeral of a distant acquaintance but then he has never had any concept of duty </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tony stop trying to rewrite history  howard expressed  no sorrow just regret like someone at the funeral of a distant acquaintance but then he has never had any concept of duty</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Dwyer</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5163</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The apology that the PM needs to give is not a question of &#039;generational&#039; or personal regret. It is a formal apology and acknowledgement of wrong-doing on behalf of the corporate entity, the Australian government, that authorised the taking of children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apology that the PM needs to give is not a question of &#8216;generational&#8217; or personal regret. It is a formal apology and acknowledgement of wrong-doing on behalf of the corporate entity, the Australian government, that authorised the taking of children.</p>
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		<title>By: AM Flynn</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5164</link>
		<dc:creator>AM Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could not agree more with Professor O’Donoghue.  We are very quick to be proud of the past when it suits us - but when it comes to Indigenous history we whities just don&#039;t get it! I am Australian and I am deeply sorry.  One day I hope we all will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could not agree more with Professor O’Donoghue.  We are very quick to be proud of the past when it suits us - but when it comes to Indigenous history we whities just don&#8217;t get it! I am Australian and I am deeply sorry.  One day I hope we all will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5165</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Rudd will apologise on behalf of the government. While it is a shame Neilson does not seem to want to understand the desirability of apologising so we can move on, his views are essentially irrelevant.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Rudd will apologise on behalf of the government. While it is a shame Neilson does not seem to want to understand the desirability of apologising so we can move on, his views are essentially irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5166</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is doubly depressing to know that Nelson is persisting with this Howard-era nonsense in order to appease the culture war warriors such as Nick Minchin and so scrape over the line in the leadership contest. The apotheosis of Howard&#039;s moral corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is doubly depressing to know that Nelson is persisting with this Howard-era nonsense in order to appease the culture war warriors such as Nick Minchin and so scrape over the line in the leadership contest. The apotheosis of Howard&#8217;s moral corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.crikey.com.au/2007/11/30/mean-diminished-and-out-of-touch-why-wont-nelson-say-sorry/#comment-5167</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germany provides an example of a country able to move on from its damaging past by accepting its responsibility for the holocaust. And they were operating under a completely different parliamentary regime at the time. Why has it been so hard for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany provides an example of a country able to move on from its damaging past by accepting its responsibility for the holocaust. And they were operating under a completely different parliamentary regime at the time. Why has it been so hard for us?</p>
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